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Ever After is 5 billion times better


Please watch it. I couldn't stand this movie because it's about a girl who's depressed because she's not rich anymore. Her only friends are tiny animals despite the myriad people who have been servants in her household for their entire lives. Ever After has been one of my favorite movies since I was a little girl and it addresses this problem touchingly and with ease. WATCH IT. It's soooooo much better!

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Depressed because she's not rich anymore? Ummm...her father died and she has to live with a family that hates her. The myriad of servants were dismissed, so they all got new jobs (hopefully) only God knows where. I love Ever After, but it's the exact same story. Only difference is that Cinderella had magic. And what problem did Ever After address specifically? Most of the servants in Danielle's household left or got dismissed. Only three stayed.

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This version of Cinderella is much more about a fall from grace than Ever After. Danielle reads Utopia and meets the prince trying to save a servant who is an integral member of her life, her family. In fact, the "servants" remain quite prominent in the storyline of Ever After, and one of the most touching points in the film is when true love is demonstrated in the reunion between an old man about to be shipped to the Americas, his wife, and his friends. Danielle is quite adamant about justice. But in Cinderella, the servants' role is much more abstract and their absence serves mainly to amplify Ella's plight. I really appreciated Ever After's progressivism, even as a child, and it's why I don't connect to Ella in this movie.

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Okay, so I have to say, thinking upon it further, this movie is a perfect marriage between the 1950 Cinderella and Ever After--there are clear influences from Ever After that other people read as copying, but it seems more like an homage to me. And I love the 1950s influence on the costuming. And the second half is more solid than the first half--it's more exciting.

This movie is growing on me.

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In this version, Ella reads Pepys and meets the prince trying to save a stag. Ella is quite adamant about justice and change too. "Just because it's what's done doesn't mean it's what should be done."

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I like ''Ever After'', but, to me, THIS is ''Cinderella''. Now, and forever.

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" 5 billion times better" ruined any chance for your comment to be meaningful.

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Their comment ruined any chance for their comment to be meaningful.

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i like 'ever after' but i still always find danielle to be kind of a bitch every time i watch it. i always want to scream at the tv 'if you want to survive, SHUT UP'. cinderella is a much more modest character. i feel for her more.

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i agree with this. danielle lacked humility. she was a deliberate smart mouth and could have avoided a lot of potentially ugly situations had she kept her mouth shut more.

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I dunno about being "a bitch". I like her gumption. But she does go out of her way to cause a few problems. She was supposed to be smarter than that. Also, she has friends who were always looking out for her best interests - heck even a step-sister that was kind to her!. This Ella didn't have anyone but her animals. If Danielle had no one, as this Cinderella does, I wonder how her story would have turned out... just a thought.

"Good times, noodle salad"

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TxMike
" 5 billion times better" ruined any chance for your comment to be meaningful.

+1

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Yes, please fixate on a turn of phrase instead of the actual content of my post.

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I actually like Ever After better, but its not a better movie than this, if that makes any sense.

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I like Tangled better than Beauty & The Beast. The latter is admittedly better.

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I have to disagree.

Although Ever After has a lot of charm, and the love story was very well done, I think Cinderella just has more magic and (as a whole) is more solid.

Cinderella is so much more colorful and exciting. It has the perfect mixture of all the elements from the different versions over the years, which makes it so fitting for the times in which we find ourselves.

Lily James is not only likeable, (as was Barrymore) but is also charming and is altogether good and pure, which is what Cinderella should be.

Cinderella was straightforward, magical, moving and like I said before, took all the best elements from all the different versions to make one ultimate version of the classic story.

Both movies are very good. But in the end I have to go with Cinderella.

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Wow. Did you miss read this movie

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Wow, it's like you didn't watch this movie at all. While I do like Ever After for various reasons, mainly for the more in depth character building we see with the step-mother and the one non-ridiculous, non-self-centered step sister,(and yes the staff/friends), as well as, that its somewhat more realistic and with the exception of the bad acting (specifically Drew's accent -eeesh I cringe every time I hear: "I shall try". Ugh.) But not once was this Cinderella ever sad about not being rich. She was kind and gracious to a fault. What in the world were you watching?

Look, the child had a happy home, lost her young mother, her father went a bit off the deep end, then died himself after leaving her with a woman who had not an ounce of care for whether she lived or died. She had nothing. No rights to her home, no family, no friends nearby (unlike Drew). She talked to animals because she had no one else, she didn't ever complain about doing everything (without the other staff that Drew had) for the obnoxious step family she had or the cold attic she slept in.

This movie wasn't better than Ever After. Ever After wasn't better than this. They were both equally good versions of a story that is a fairy tale. Eeesh. I think you need to give this one another chance.
"Good times, noodle salad"

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I did mention elsewhere in this thread that the movie grew on me after rewatching. I do think her sadness is related to not having wealth or comfort or whatever (otherwise, I don't really understand the nature of her sadness and how it plays out), but I also find her gracious and sweet.

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Oh, are you talking about the movie where Drew Barrymore tries to put on an English accent for her French character? Is that the superior movie that you're talking about?

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Drew's accent annoys me too, but the ideas are what have always drawn me to it. I mean, Danielle reads Thomas Paine. What rom com so seamlessly talks about Thomas Paine? The movie was hugely influential to me as a teen, despite Drew's horrible accent.

Edit: I meant Thomas More. I KNOW. I've been listening to Hamilton too much. Damn you Angelica Schuyler.

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Thomas More, not Thomas Paine.

Very different people and Paine wouldn't have been born when Ever After was supposed to take place.

There is always a reason to live.

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I know. Huge mistake. I've been listening to the Hamilton soundtrack nonstop for a few weeks and had Paine on the brain. I realized I wrote Thomas Paine instead of More and was hoping I could correct it before anyone noticed, lol. Not so much. Oh well.

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Haha, sorry. I was figuring it was just a mix-up but I couldn't not mention it because they're so different that I was like.. wait, what? Lol

Also, I love Ever After and I love this version. I watched Ever After first as a little girl and still watch it all the time. I know you've mentioned now that you watched this again and it's grown a lot on you (yay) but just wanted to add some stuff. I don't really compare the movies -- they're both amazing, just made in such different ways. In Ever After they wanted to make it less magic, tossed into a place in history. With Cinderella it was magic and fictional places.

Oh and about Ever After, it really is just so great. I love when they're with the gypsies and she puts Henry on her back and starts carrying him away while he waves at the gypsies  Him confessing his love at the ruins was really moving and that ballroom scene makes me cry, it was so sad. Have you ever really listened to the background music for Ever After? They went nuts with the random fun noises there. Lots of du duh, duh duuuhh.

There is always a reason to live.

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The main reason that this is better than Ever After is because Ever After is maudlin, cliched, predictable, pretentious, shallow, cold, and unrealistic in general, and historically inaccurate in particular with English-speaking French people just being the tip of a very slow, very boring iceberg, but this 2015 version of Cinderella has the excuse of being a fun, warm, live-action cartoon whereas Ever After tried to be a serious documentary. You have to watch both movies as if they're ridiculous escapism, but Ever After insists that you watch it as if it's some sort of replacement for History class.

EDIT: So I'm just going to consider the source here and remember that there's no accounting for taste. We've got the one dope who doesn't know Thomas Paine from Thomas More, and then we've got you calling him out about it and calling yourself a Dame, both blinded by nostalgia. Combine you both and turn you into a movie and you've got Ever After.

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Yes, I'm a dope because of a harmless brain fart and because I have tastes that differ from yours. Because you, of course, are the arbiter of all things classy. Oh noble lord, I need your guidance. Please help me. Should I watch Breaking Bad when I get off work? Or should I kick back and take it easy with some Futurama? Because I need your opinion on all things. I NEEEEED IT.

Lol. When you're done being a pretentious, highfalutin donkey, I invite you to screw off. Try not to let the door hit the stick up your butt on your way out. 'Twould be painful.

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They are quite different movies. I'm just so attached to Ever After. My favorite part: when Henry asks, "You swim alone, climb rocks, rescue servants. Is there anything you don't do?" and Danielle answers, "Fly." It's just so simple and lovely. Also when Danielle brings back Maurice and the women embrace him. I cry every time.

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Are you special?

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Oh, come on, Drew Barrymore is a butterface!

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