They made it so much a point to do a scene where the step mom catches Cinderellas dad talking to her about her mother this and her mother that. Then of course we see the disappointment on step mothers face as if this causes her to be evil later on. What is this BS? So she was just a normal woman till suddenly some man breaks her heart by talking about his dead wife? Who the hell talks about their dead wife when they are with someone else? They purposefully made him look like an inconsiderate ass with that one ridiculous scene. So yeah everybody, the man is to blame for the stepmothers behavior. Modern Disney and their BS agendas.
WRONG. They may have given a reason for the Stepmother's cruel treatment of Ella, but, it was never intended to excuse her. As others have pointed out, both Ella and her Stepmother had tragedies in their lives- but, they handled them very differently. And, the Stepmother herself pointed out that she had married the second time, for the sake of her daughters. Ella's father, in discussing his late wife, wounded nothing but her vanity. In fairy tales like ''Snow White'', for example, that's motivation enough for cruel and vindictive behavior.
Guess again, punk. The message was obviously there. That's why they filmed it in such a manner that most people could see it clearly. Guess you ate too many paint chips as a kid if you missed it, porky.
Typical of this site's childish mentality. Also prove I have even one other account kid. Oh you can't cause I only signed up with this one. LOL the stupid, childish mentality on these boards...
? Who the hell talks about their dead wife when they are with someone else?Â
Someone who has a child with said dead wife, that's who
Are you saying Ellas father can't talk to his daughter about her mother just because he's married now? Even if he was madly in love with the Stepmother (which he was not) Ellas mothers spirit would always be present in some capacity because of Ella, its her mother.
Thats what happens when children are involved
Besides the Stepmother didn't love Ella's father it was a marriage of convenience for both of them, she was jealous of Ella because simply put she was a better person then her or her daughters. I think her reaction to Ellas fathers conversation was more her realization that he would always side with Ella over her....it was irrational jealousy that her husband dare pick his daughter over his new wife.
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Maybe not jealousy but control. I have known a few people rather similar to the stepmother in real life, and with both of those it seems to be mostly a question of control, they are control freaks who want to have full control of everything in their lives.
Cinderella's existence alone would have undermined that control because her father might listen to her rather than to the stepmom if those two happened to think differently of something, and she also would always remind him of his first wife, a rival to the stepmom even if she was dead as long as he would keep on thinking of her, he might, for example, do something in the way the dead wife would have liked it instead of the way the new wife would have preferred as long as the dead wife was fresh in the husband's memories, and with her well loved daughter there she would remain so.
If the husband had not died the stepmom might have started a serious husband hunt for Ella sooner rather than later, anything to get her out of the house. Somebody not too rich or too powerful, just somebody who'd get her out of the way and out of her father's eyes so stepmom could get that all important full control of him, or at least have an easier time fighting for it.
Ella was also a practical rival to her, for the resources of the house. A new dress or whatever to her would be money the stepmom would not be able to use for her own and her daughters' expenses.
And after the father died Cinderella was a heir to her father's money and possessions, at least part of them, and now a husband to her might have totally decimated the stepmom's resources - it does not come up in the movie, but since the fantasy kingdom seems to exist in at most 19th century one might assume the inheritance laws might be similar to the real ones as they existed in several European countries.
Which means Cinderella would probably inherit at least something, maybe half, but possibly also everything, BUT be able to get control of her inheritance rather late, perhaps in her mid-20's or even a bit later, UNLESS she married. And if she did marry then the husband would be the one who'd have control of what she owned (even if it had not been the king...). As long as she remained unmarried and under the age of legal adulthood for single women the stepmom would be the one who had that control, as her guardian if not her legalized mother, and could use the resources in whatever way she wanted, presumably with the intention of using them to find suitable husbands to her daughters and squirrel the rest somewhere where Cinderella would not be able to get at it once she was old enough to start fighting for that control.
So now it was very important to the stepmother to make sure Cinderella would not meet any suitable husband candidates, or if she did they would not get interested because she seemed to be just a servant.
And with luck, if the stepmom would be able to break her spirit fully perhaps she could keep the problematic stepdaughter as an unpaid servant too cowed to ask what was legally hers for the rest of her life.
So I think the main drivers for stepmother's behavior were not jealousy or anything like it (although at least some jealousy no doubt existed) but rather the need for full control of everything in her life and simple plain greed.
It wasn't a "hidden message" because no one is inherently evil - or inherently anything. We are all shaped by our experiences; Lady Tramaine's disposition can be accredited to, like some have aforementioned, the loss of not one but two husbands (among other things - in a very short period of time).
Additionally, As a husbandless women in that period (a widow), she now faces social and economic ruin. Her only hope is to marry her two stupid and unattractive daughters, or remarry herself.
Cinderella becomes the object of her cruelty because she is everything her and the step sisters are not: young, kind, smart, beautiful.
Tremaine is still young and beautiful and perhaps would get a third husband if her treatment of Ella didn't discourage potential marks unless the guy in question has no children from any previous relationships.
No, she looks like an old lady. I don't remember who was named what but one of her daughters was totally hot but as usual Disney and their agenda pretended that didn't matter. But the old lady could get married as an elderly woman and Cinderella was desired by the prince even though she was just a 6 on a scale of 1 to 10. This movie makes me sick with its hidden messages.
I don't think it was so much excusing her behaviour as pointing out that there are shades of grey- not everything is black and white when it comes to 'evil' and 'good' characters. This is following a bit of a trend in kids films, a good thing I think. For example, Maleficent.
It doesn't excuse the way she behaved in any way, but perhaps we can see an inkling of a reason.
Having said that, I didn't really like this Cinderella version very much; the characters were pretty much stereotypical.