Paula Strasberg


There was something perverted about Paula Strasberg's control over Marilyn. It's interesting that in the movie Strasberg enables Marilyn's "social life" while strictly controlling her work.

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I can get that MM wanted someone to help her with her performance, around the set, but it looks creepy the way Paula did it. She's in Tony Curtis's book about making Some Like it Hot and she seemed controlling there too. Perverted? IDK. I hope not.


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Marilyn was desperate to be taken seriously as an actress, and the Strasbergs had their eyes on the main chance. Both of them pandered to her shamelessly, telling here she was the greatest actress of her generation. And yes, surprise!, they were made beneficiaries of her estate.

It's such a shame Marilyn's fame and insecurity made her a magnet for such creeps and self-seekers. Watching her work, you see what a gifted comic actress she was. That, combined with her beauty and sexuality, made her an inimitable star. Ironically, for all the fuss about the great Sir Laurence, Marilyn's the only thing alive and fun and worth watching in The Prince and The Showgirl.

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Lee Strasberg's widow, Anna, now has control over Monroe's estate. Anna received everything when Lee died, and Susan and her brother received absolutely nothing. Susan Strasberg gave her parents thousands of dollars when she was an actress. They were broke many times, and Susan supported them even when she was a teenager. Paula died in the late 60s, and Marilyn even gave Susan her pearl necklace. Anna Strasberg tried to take the necklace away from Susan when she was dying. It was intended for her daughter Jennifer.

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Does no one get the fact that Marilyn was very lonely and craved love. She didn't have much of a relationship with her mother and never knew her father. She was very insecure and needed people around her that she could trust to be honest with her. She also needed structure in her life. People gave her pills to go to sleep and more pills to wake up. She wasn't always in control of her own life because of that.

People immediately fell in love with her back in the day. People have been obsessed with collecting memorabilia about Marilyn. I knew a woman who had a Harley decked out like something Marilyn would find pretty.

Marilyn got married very young and for a very short time. Her marriage to DiMaggio lasted less than a year. I remember finding it odd that she married Arthur Miller since he was such an intellectual and Marilyn always seemed ditzy in most of her rolls. But, when you get to know Marilyn, she is very intelligent. I think her marriages didn't work out because she never thought that her husbands would stay so, she was scared and she pushed them away before they could leave. Most likely that was because she didn't have any experience with men having never known her father.

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David Traversa
IMABE: It seems quite strange to me that in order to know MEN you have to know your father first... Indeed!

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Not exactly know your father personally but see how he behaves with your mother and when he is out shopping etc. Boys have even more trouble.

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David Traversa. Wow!

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Paula was always Lee's surrogate when it came to coaching Marilyn Monroe. Lee Strasberg was one of the great acting teachers of the past century. But he also liked to pull in famous actors and claim them for his own. MM was one of those.Another one was Dustin Hoffman who as an unknown auditioned for the Studio and failed about six times. It was only after he made it big that Hoffman was offered a membership. Not an uncommon event. Yet another one was Marlon Brando whom many wrongly associate as having learned his chops from Straberg and the Actor's Studio. Brando was actually a protege' of Stella Adler's, whom along with Sandford Meisner and Robert Lewis were among the other great acting teachers of that time. Brando who tired of being associated with the Studio was once quoted as saying (to paraphrase) that
he learned how to act from Stella Adler and he went to the Actor's Studio to meet girls. Strasberg did indeed have a rep of offering memberships to already successful talented actors, playwrights, etc.
I also think (and this is just my opinion) that the Strasberg approach to acting and the control that the Strasberg's had over MM made her all the more messed up.
The "Method" as it was taught by Strasberg as opposed to his other contemporaries was in a large way based on "Affective memory", which was developed by Stanislavsky as only one small aspect of his technique, but was used far more intensely by Strasberg which he called "sense memory" or "emotional recall". It was a way of using memories of your own life that can summon up similar emotions for a particular role or scene. There was a massive rift during that time over it's overuse between Strasberg in one camp and Stella Adler and Meisner on the other side. The latter two felt that it was not only more helpful to use one's imagination about the circumstances of the play but it was also more emotionally safer for the actor instead of digging into one's own dark places and demons in order to get to an emotional state. For someone like Marilyn Monroe who was already incredibly unstable, this I feel made her much worse and also way too dependent on the Strasbergs.
I have to add though that there are legions of students and very talented and successful actors who believe in Strasberg's approach and swear by it. From Paul Newman, Ellen Burston, Shelly Winters and on down to some of today's talents like Bradley Cooper- there are numbers of legitimate students that feel they owe much of their success to this approach. But it is not for everyone. I don't think it was for Marilyn Monroe.

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Very interesting post, Alfriend. Thank you! I don't know what approach MM used for, "Some Like It Hot", but it was both successful and memorable! It seems no one today comes even close to the magic we often saw in Marilyn on screen. I would say this is also true of the chemistry that I felt with Elvis Presley. All these years and these two still rank #1 in my book.

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You're most welcome.
And you are right; she was great in "Some Like It Hot" and imho also "Prince and the Showgirl" too. The sad truth of it though is that the deep insecurity she felt, the need for drugs to sleep and then awake and over-indulgent pampering from the Strasberg's only made her so sadly dependent on them for everything-- all made it impossible for the other actors to shine as well as they could have. Billy Wilder the director of SLIH said that Tony Curtis for one gave an oscar worthy performance that wound up on the cutting room floor; as it would take 50 or more takes for MM to get her motor going let alone remember the lines. Wilder told Curtis that he had to do this as those early MM takes were not usable, thereby making his early great takes mostly unusable save for some close-ups. This was sadly the effect that happened to all of her later co-stars right to the end. If you like MM you should see some of her earlier films before she was well known. She really turned in some great performances and had a gift for drama that most people never realized; "Clash By Night" and "Don't Bother to Knock" to name a few.
There's a great interview that George Chakiris (Bernardo, West Side Story) gave where he talked about how disciplined, hard working, on time and fun Marilyn was to work with in her early years. I think the system hurt her alot and also she never got her due in any way from the Studios, even though she made so much money for them.
Believe me I feel the same for MM as you do. Imagine having all this working against you and she still managed to be great! I think both Elvis and MM were troubled people who suffered from very bad management.

Hey did you ever see the list of great roles that Colonel Parker turned down that might have given Elvis the one thing he always wanted; an oscar.
Cat On A Hot Tin Roof - Brick (went to Paul Newman)
West Side Story - Tony (Richard Beymer)
Sweet Bird of Youth - Chance Wayne (Paul Newman)
The Defiant Ones - Joker (Tony Curtis)
Your Cheatin' Heart - Hank Williams (George Hamilton)
True Grit - La Boeuf Glenn Campbell)
A Star is Born - John Norman Howard (Kris Kristofferson)

Now here is the most amazing loss of all Colonel Parker turned down the role of Bo Decker in "Bus Stop"! Originally it was offered to Marlon Brando who dropped out and then offered to Elvis. This would have brought Marilyn and Elvis together in a romance/comedy where they both would have shined brightly. It would have been one of the great star pairing of all time and who knows where else it might have led them both.

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Yup, 'summoning up your own emotions' works fine for some people, either because they're stable and secure in themselves, or because they have enough sense to pull up before they go too deep. For others, though, either because their dark places are too dark, or because they want to do a really, really good job of going deep into them, it can be really destabilizing. I think Marilyn was one of the second group. In which case, comedies were probably safer for her.

Like some people can watch horror movies and just walk away, and others will be really freaked out. You have to either accept that they're just movies, or know your limits and not watch them.

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Yeah, after watching various documentaries and biopics about Monroe it appears that Paula Strasberg was one creepy parasite organism. If Yoko Ono was a succubus, Paula was that times ten. Some defend her along the lines of "oh but you see, she was the only 'family' Marilyn had!". Yes, that's precisely how a succubus operates - like the brood parasitic common cuckoo, a big fat pig that pushes the other nestlings out of the nest.

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Perverted seems like the wrong word. If you want to question her motives, call her controlling, an enabler, I'd agree with all that, but perverted? Based on what?

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Perverted can also mean "misguided," not just a "sexual deviant." Traditionally, the word "pervert" was mainly associated with persons of false religious beliefs.

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Paula was a controlling nutjob in this movie and in real life.

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