The Watch (Spoilers)




At the end, when Geary had put the watch on the guy he was framing, did no-one notice that it was Shepherdson's watch?

The head of the CIA had known Shepherdson for more than 20 years, and Shepherson had had that watch for more than 20 years.

Isnt the head of the CIA supposed to be observant?

Or had he actually realised the truth about who Cassius must have been, and realised that Geary could be very quick-thinking and plausibly dishonest, and that was the reason he offered him a job?




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i always thought that scene when cassius took out the watch from his drawer means that he hasn't used that watch for a long time, and now it's time to use it again. I mean I think he only used the watch on special assassination missions back in the day and he didn't let the Americans find out about the watch.

no thought, no reflection, no analysis, no control, no intention, let it settle itself.

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he didn't let the Americans find out about the watch.

The timeline is a bit unclear to me.

We saw him in 1988 (I think) meeting Martin Sheen for first time. At that time (as far as Sheen's character knew, at least) he had been working for the CIA for 3 years as an analyst.

That was the meeting at which he betrayed his colleagues to the Americans.

But I do not know how long after his wife was killed that that scene took place.

Are we supposed to believe that he only started his US cover after his own side betrayed him? In which case, how come no-one questioned why he was at the scene of the early Cassius murders. Before he had the excuse of being a Hunter.

In which case, he would have been simultaneously wrapping up loose ends (anyone who knew him as Cassius) while working for CIA. So I would have thought he might have been seen with the watch by the Americans while still at the tail end of his career as a murderer.

Or are we supposed to believe that his US cover had been going on for years. In which case that would have been a harder thing for Cassius to eradicate the records. But also would have meant that throughout his career as a murderer, there would have been the chance for Americans to see him with the watch.


I imagine that if anyone checks the crime scene photos carefully, they might notice the watch on Shepherson's wrist.



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You said 3 years, was that mentioned in the movie? I think it might be longer than that, one crime scene photo looks like when Richard Gere was in his American Gigolo/Officer and a Gentleman days(late 70's,early 80's)

I think after his wife got killed and he decided to turn rogue, he had to eliminate alot of russian agents and others that could expose him, then he went to Highland(martin sheen) say he had a "breakthrough". You said: "In which case that would have been a harder thing for Cassius to eradicate the records" Do you mean to eradicate his records held by the russians? If so, I agree with you that it seems highly implausible that he tied up all the lose ends unless he was very very careful from inception regarding his true identity even to the russians.

As far as your question regarding no one questioned why he was at the scene of early Cassius murders, my understanding of the movie is that he has been working as a mole for the russians in the CIA(branch? division? subsidiary?)in Paris for a while(my guess around 10 years since the late 70's) before him turning rogue. So he's been investigating at his own crime scenes.

As far as the watch goes, here are my thoughts: I don't think there's much to it. He's gone this far, this deep into the game, I don't think he's gonna let a watch bring him down. You speculate he might be seen by americans or at the crime scene photo with the same watch, but if you or I were him, would we wear the same watch? of course not, we'd wear a different one. Here are some possibilities:
1. The watch in question is the only lethal watch he has, and he's been carefully using it on secret assasin missions in which case Highland or any other Cia members would not know about it.
2. He might have several kinds of watches, lethal and non lethal.
3. I mean when Geary told Highland at the end Shepherdson used Blovsky's watch to cut blovsky, there's no way for Highland to know it's not Blovsky's watch. I think Highland's puzzled face was that he found the described scenario a little hard to believe.

no thought, no reflection, no analysis, no control, no intention, let it settle itself.

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You said 3 years, was that mentioned in the movie?

Yeah, about 20 mins in. The 1988 scene in the embassy in Paris.

Sheen's character walks in and says. "So. Paul Shepherdson. Been an analyst for the Company here in Paris for about 3 years. What do you want to see me about."


As far as your question regarding no one questioned why he was at the scene of early Cassius murders, my understanding of the movie is that he has been working as a mole for the russians in the CIA(branch? division? subsidiary?)in Paris for a while(my guess around 10 years since the late 70's) before him turning rogue. So he's been investigating at his own crime scenes.


That same 1988 scene seems to be the start of his formal investigation into the "Cassius 7". If he had already been officially working on it, then he would have had - I assume - a chain of command.

It was because he was such a low level grunt that he did not even have a proper contact, and was obliged to go to the embassy and ask to see the CIA guy (who was a stranger to him up to that point - as far as his US cover persona is concerned).

So he only had an excuse to be at the scenes from 1988 onwards.

I think Highland's puzzled face was that he found the described scenario a little hard to believe.

Yeah, I think so too.




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At the beginning, when he goes to the little league game, he says specifically that he doesn't wear a watch. I would take that to mean that he didn't wear that particular watch, or any watch, since he retired, or since he turned and started hunting his own men.

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My problem with the watch is that there is no way on god's green earth that one could slice open someone's throat (deeply) with that wire and then retract it back into the watch without great gobs of blood whipping all over the place AND piling up all over the outside of the watch.

Who knew that slashing throats produces no blood at all?

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My immediate thought was the real Cassius's DNA. I guess we're supposed to think no one will bother to investigate further.

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