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A racist movie with zionist propaganda

posted 13 years ago by CallMeDesdinova
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This entire movie is antagonistic towards arabs in a very overt and racist way. Imagine if a movie like this had jews as a target, it would never even get past the pitch for funding.

Do some research, a lot of the 60 million USD that was invested in this movie came from Jewish organizations with political agendas. Hell, some footage is even from AIPAC. It is ironic that the jews that have gotten so demonized in the media during the early 1900s are doing the exact same thing to others.

And before anyone claims that Borat made fun of jews, no it didn't, it made fun of people who hate Jews.

[–] badmofo6662004 13 years ago

Seemed to me it was antagonizing dictators...

And it made fun of racist people who think every Arab is a terrorist.

[–] savaslikesmovies 13 years ago

Not all dictators are Arabs.. hello?

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[–] Belforhir 12 years ago

No, but nearly all Arabs are dictators.

Wow... the amount of countries in the world must be much larger than I thought :p

[–] chatfan 13 years ago

The guy didn't even see the movie Sacha Baron Cohen clearly tells his american security guy he is not an arab. Just ignore the race troll.

[–] heresmyopinion 12 years ago

What a weak argument.
Nearly all songs are in Arabic and most of the sterotypes used are those perpetuated against Arabs and Middle-easterners.

[–] CallMeDesdinova 13 years ago

Nope, I am anti-racist. I oppose all racism, that is why I do not like this movie, or the policies of Israel or any other racist entity.

[–] rmpp 13 years ago

that's racist

[–] hiimryan66 12 years ago

Protesting Israel isn't racist, it's *beep* logic.

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[–] swecritic 13 years ago

The film is definitly rascist and definitly NOT rascist. It is a comedy and satire of both dictatorship and democracy. It's a actually a very clever piece. The thing to remember is that the rascism is not real.

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[–] violet_yoshi 13 years ago

I agree, that's what people aren't seeing here. Sascha is trolling the hell out of dictators and people who agree with their messages. Who wouldn't enjoy that, except um, dictators and their followers?

[–] DmanX 13 years ago

You're the racist here.
This is a satire, get over it.
I'm not sure you'll manage the same for your racist tendencies.

[–] mkivtt 12 years ago

You're beyond clueless.

[–] Pianohero4 11 years ago

So israel's policies are based on "race" eh? Is that why Jews will be a minority in Israel in the near future due to Israel's demographics?

Please excuse any typos, this was typed on an iPad

[–] frank_drebbin_lapd 13 years ago

Zionism is racist, that's a fact.

[–] The_Real_Wolf 13 years ago

Yeah he was definitely making fun of you anti-israel people and also the people who thinks all Arabs are terrorists.

[–] Swezy-For-Easy 13 years ago

oh yeah *beep* it ! i'm anti-children killers & lands stealers ! is there anything wrong with that ?

[–] Ginnn 12 years ago

jews are like that...

It is fun and games until someone gets caught. Then it's rape.

[–] jean-gove 13 years ago

Sacha Baron Cohen makes fun of everyone, superficially it's very vulgar comedy, but there's a lot of thought behind it all. The only problem, which makes his films look like Zionist propaganda, is that he always spares Jews and Israel. He makes fun of both ignorant racists and politically correct hippies, of anti-Arab Americans and anti-American Arabs, but Israel is always spared.

He is himself a Socialist-Zionist, so I don't think he's racist, and Zionism is comparable to a religious nationalism rather than racism, but if you're going to make fun of everyone, every group and every people, and forego your own group and people, it is inevitable that such accusations will crop up.

[–] xxhelterskelterxx 13 years ago

Zionism is a form of ethnic cleansing, where a native Arab population is slowly displaced by a Jewish one. It's racist by definition.

[–] jean-gove 13 years ago

I'm not going to claim that Israel has acted ethically, in the same ways that no state was ever created by acting ethically, nor was any state ever removed by acting ethically, but it's ultimately a political question. The Jews wanted to set up a homeland in a land claimed by others and given to them by the British. There was never a question of race. Jews themselves are not a race as such, but a religious ethnicity - they're a mixture of European and Arab themselves. In truth, this unethical act of taking another people's home should make one think more about the fundamentally unethical nature of the nation-state model rather than the specific actions of Israelis when ALL states and nation-states have been doing the same things for aeons, including the Arabs who now live in Palestine.

The problem with many anti-Zionists is that they take Israel's unethical actions in a vacuum without considering the hostility Israel faced from day one. Obviously one has to condemn unethical actions wherever one finds them, but it strikes a dishonest tone when one not merely exaggerates but focuses solely on the unethical actions of one state, and designates them primarily as the actions of a whole people.

[–] jcherub 12 years ago

...then why do 1.4 million Arabs Iraeli citizens live in Israel? (about 20%)

[–] minhal92 13 years ago

I agree with you, if these guys were making fun of Jews they'd go crazy.

[–] SupeRed09 13 years ago

Sacha Baron IS Jewish you moron.
And he has made fun of Jews in quite a lot of his work, why don't YOU do some research before posting.

[–] savaslikesmovies 13 years ago

Can you give an example of how he has made fun of them?

[–] SupeRed09 13 years ago

Erm you ever seen Borat?
Before you all start I know exactly why the character is racist, and I also know that it doesn't mean Sacha feels the same way as his characters. But that doesn't mean he didn't spend the whole movie poking fun at ''Di Jeews'' and making anti-semetic statements because he did. I don't know what country you are from and nor does it matter, but I was living in America at the time and many members of Jewish communities were angered by the film.

[–] Lord_Nefarius 13 years ago

Erm, are you a moron?

A racist character making anti-semetic comments does not demean jewish people, it demeans the racist character and creates sympathy for the jews.

[–] SupeRed09 13 years ago

Well cleary YOU are the moron for not having enough grasp of the English language to read my comment and understand. I'm sorry I didn't think I was being to complicated or using any big words but obviously was too much for you to understand. I'll try to speak more slowly for you in the future ...

[–] DreTam2000 12 years ago

You don't seem to grasp how satire works.

The Borat movie does not make fun of Jews. It makes fun of people who badmouth Jews by portraying its protagonist as a fool and ignoramus. Everything he says about Jews falls back on him, not on Jews.

Sascha Boran Cohen does not satire Jews in any of his work. For me, it is primary flaw. His satire usually flies over most people's heads (as satires and satirists tend to do). But despite how much I respect the satire, I think the Jewish slant behind it is difficult to swallow. All of these movie companies and record corporations and media conglomerates and banks and the Federal Reserve and Israel are all spared his onslaught of humorous social commentary. Like most Jewish comedians and satirists, any attempts of his to satire Jews are superficial at the most.

He is Zionist by nature, and he is much like a barricade over his own people that picks other groups to knock down instead. Nothing new here...

I'm not a control freak, I just like things my way

[–] samuri5 13 years ago

Can you give an example of how he has made fun of them?

Uh, yeah. Maybe you can do a teensy bit of research before launching your clear, anti Jewish rant.

Consider viewing Borat. Um..."the racing of the Jew" skit? Or...his spending the night with the elderly jewish couple, whom he felt poisoned their food and was planning on murdering him?

As stated simply and clearly by others, Cohen punks EVERYONE, getting the greatest mileage from those who reveal more about themselves than they perhaps even know, as you apparently have done.

This makes your post worthy of consideration.

Now please get over yourself and your misguided sense of "enlightenment."

Open the pod bay doors, Hal.

[–] AssetsonFire 13 years ago

How is satirising antisemitism antisemitic?

Oh whisky, leave me alone.

[–] DreTam2000 12 years ago

Sascha Boran Cohen does not satire Jews, and he certainly did not do so in the Borat movie.

Consider viewing Borat. Um..."the racing of the Jew" skit? Or...his spending the night with the elderly jewish couple, whom he felt poisoned their food and was planning on murdering him?

He isn't satirizing Jews in that scene. He's satirizing people who view Jews the way the Borat character does.

I'm not a control freak, I just like things my way