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Washington seems to want Republicans to get credit for any upcoming UFO disclosure...

posted 3 years ago by WhoToTrust (1119)
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....despite it being those same republicans who seem to have been responsible for refusing to disclose any information regarding the subject of UFO's in the United States from the very beginning of the phenomenon.

When reviewing the lore over the decades since the 1940's, most information on the subject indicates that only republican presidents were ever read in on classified information, whereas Democrat presidents were refused access.

And when was funding actually included in an official piece of legislation for the purpose of public disclosure and public investigation? During a republican presidency.

To use the the republican gaslighting tendency for accusing others of things they themselves are guilty of but still wanting credit for any good that may come out of their deceits by "just asking (rhetorically biased) questions"...Isn't it "interesting" that republicans have been to blame for the unwanted secrecy all along, but now seem to want credit for lifting the veil on the secrecy? -Eyeroll-

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[–] RoboReCop (3294) 2 years ago

I'm not sure it matters which party holds the executive office, in regards to UFO/Alien topics.

Seems, IMO, these topics, access to information and locations are governed by a separate part of the government which isn't controlled by the executive branch.

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[–] WhoToTrust (1119) 2 years ago

If it doesn't matter, why has that separate part of government which isn't controlled by the executive branch ONLY ever seemed to read-in republican presidents? IMO, you can't have an opinion on the subject that wants things both ways.

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[–] RoboReCop (3294) 2 years ago

Joe Biden is a democrat. The House is controlled by the Democrat Party. The Senate is a 50/50 (Republican/Democrat split) with Kamala Harris (Democrat) overseeing the Senate as the 'deciding' vote.

Just a week or two ago, the House held a UFO conference where intel officials provided "evidence" of UFOs caught/observed on video... how could such a session be open for public viewing when Democrats hold power and the majority of the executive and legislative branches, respectively? Did the republicans force the democrat majority to have an open conference about UFOs?

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[–] WhoToTrust (1119) 2 years ago

Your premise is of course based on the assumption that those intel officials divulged all available evidence.

The fact that those intel officials classified said UFO's as a "threat" despite there being no evidence having been made public to validate such a classification AGAIN seems to only conclude in an opinion that wants things both ways.

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[–] RoboReCop (3294) 2 years ago

Actually, my only assumption is that the UFO/Alien subject is governed separately from the executive branch. However, I've never stated the intel officials divulge "all available evidence"... clearly, that's not the case. That's why many of us want full disclosure and seem to never receive it.

It's your claim that the Republicans have the means to divulge and control the release of information about UFOs/Aliens to the public to receive "credit", while democrats are excluded from disclosing such information. I'm only challenging your claim and with my previous state example about the open UFO conference led by a majority-run Democratic House should invalidate your claim (or at least give you a little room to reasses your idea, or question the information/sorces which you based your claim on).

There is one thing I don't understand: "... AGAIN seems to only conclude in an opinion that wants things both ways."
How want's it both ways, me? the Republicans? the intel officials? What are the both ways [i.g., A) ; B)]?
It's just unclear to me as to whom you're referring to, as I'm reading it.

As I've stated, I think none of this is in control of the executive office, let alone 'traditional' government. Whomever controls this apparatus allows who can and cannot receive access to such information. It's not a "Republican vs Democrat" thing at all, IMO; but, I'm not excluding the idea that it may be a "republican and democrat" thing.

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[–] WhoToTrust (1119) 2 years ago

Actually, my only claim was that Washington seems to want republicans to get credit for disclosure. It was YOU who claimed FOR me that I claimed "republicans have the means to divulge and control the release of information about UFO's/aliens..."

So if you're going to challenge my initial post, at least try to remain honest about why you're ding it and how.

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The fact remains, you were unable to ever refute what I stated in my initial post.

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[–] Satan2016 (25525) 2 years ago

Nonsense! If anyone denied UFO info to the president they would be out of a job.

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[–] WhoToTrust (1119) 2 years ago

Maybe in YOUR "real world". History has proven otherwise. Nonsense indeed.

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[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11952) 2 years ago

If there is some scientific and national security cabal which has information, I guarantee you they don't tell the President, of either party. They don't want some politician gladhanding this for his own advantage.

Can you imagine if Trump knew state secrets on aliens? It would be allover the news by now. Nah, they ain't gonna trust those guys with this information.

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[–] WhoToTrust (1119) 2 years ago

Possibly, but there have been people over the years who have come forward on the subject who were in official positions which required no need for the same type of speculation on their part that you and I would have to rely on who have stated otherwise.

And besides, suggesting that trump should ever be viewed as having had anywhere near the level of actual responsibility and accountability required for being briefed on such information the same as most other presidents this country has had since its beginning is to render the entire position basically meaningless and of no real importance whatsoever.

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[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11952) 2 years ago

I really see all American Presidents as more or less figureheads.

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[–] WhoToTrust (1119) 2 years ago

To a certain extent I would agree. Some just more than others...and some MUCH more than others.

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[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11952) 2 years ago

I didn't vote for Trump and I would never vote for a Republican - it's the party of the wealthy.

But I'd say Trump was more independent than most of them.

He was powerful enough aside from the clique who runs Washington to have his own sources of information.

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[–] WhoToTrust (1119) 2 years ago

IMO, the type of clique that would have told trump anything on the subject would basically be the same as the separate part of government that has lied to the public about this subject for the last 70 years, so in essence, back to square one as far as this discussion goes.

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