I'll tell you what...


I believe myself to be a person of considerable intelligence, which is why I possess the capability to take in information, watch a television program for example, and develop a full understanding of where its content is coming from. Why do people seem to think that if you enjoy this show, you automatically believe every aspect of it. Is it really so black and white for people? Is it not possible to pick apart the facts and bits that you wish to add to your collective information? To draw your own conclusions? Even just to enjoy the idea of it..

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by amandadewindt » ...Is it really so black and white for people?

For some...it apparently has to be.

No other reason they would feel it so necessary to rail against even the very possibility.

Fear of the unknown...making people scared a'holes since the invention of dirt...

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Yes, it's clear some people have such an intense objection to the basic concepts discussed that they categorically reject it all. I don't believe there is anything you can do or say about it but weather it. The utter rejection of it all is as equally disturbing as the blind acceptance of it all.

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My objection is not to the idea, I am totally open to the possibility of UFO's and ancient alien visitations and I enjoy listening to the speculation of others on these subjects.

I only object to the awful quality of the show and the fact that these people blatantly resorted to misinterpretation, misrepresentation, and misinformation in order to get most of their major points across.

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I only object to the awful quality of the show and the fact that these people blatantly resorted to misinterpretation, misrepresentation, and misinformation in order to get most of their major points across.


But that poses a problem with the whole idea.

It's now obvious that ALL these Ancient Astronaut "theorists" are snake-oil salesman -- and probably always have been -- who will say absolutely anything to promote the idea. Basically, every stone moved before the industrial revolution and every technology since are because aliens did it.

Just because something comes out of the mouth of a con artist doesn't mean it's not true. But it does mean it's a con.

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I agree with the vast majority of your post. When I was referring to the idea though, I only meant the idea in essence of aliens visiting the Earth in the past, detached from all of the phony claims of the AA writers. Since Von Daniken is the one who pioneered the AA scheme though, I suppose you're right in the sense that they are mutually exclusive.

And perhaps I used a poor choice of words, but just because I don't object to the idea doesn't mean I subscribe to it. I regard ancient aliens in the same way I regard bigfoot and modern UFO's, both of which I approach with the utmost skepticism, and without tangible evidence I will always remain unconvinced. But as long as it is bound within the laws of physics I will keep an open mind to the mere possibility, however slim and improbable.

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Agreed. I was just adding my own thoughts to your statement.

I don't dismiss the possibility that aliens have influenced humanity, but I do dismiss the idea that a single shred of credible evidence has been presented.

But then, I'm one of those closed minded "skeptic" types who doesn't consider tortured logic based on intentional misrepresentations presented in the form of a question compelling evidence.

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by zwooven » ...I don't dismiss the possibility that aliens have influenced humanity, but I do dismiss the idea that a single shred of credible evidence has been presented.

But then, I'm one of those closed minded "skeptic" types who doesn't consider tortured logic based on intentional misrepresentations presented in the form of a question compelling evidence.

You do realize however that simply holding this opinion doesn't automatically make what you've said about this show true though don't you, especially when you phrase and deliver it in such a condescending way.

For claiming to not be a "skeptic", you sure present yourself as one with the way you address the subject matter as it's been presented on this show.

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Amen, OP. I couldn't have worded it better myself. I am also an intelligent person (or at least consider myself one). There are parts of this show laughable but it would be blind to completely ignore some of what this show talks about, and it would be even more blind to think that there isn't other intelligent life out there that is vastly superior to our technology.

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Is it really so black and white for people?
When it comes down to ludicrous claims such as that the moon is a spaceship, yes, it is.
To draw your own conclusions?
All for that. And the conclusion that can be drawn from this show is that the producers saw a market for this nonsense.

The female mind is, after all solely tuned to being self-serving - rjfme

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Wait a minute, there is an episode in which someone claims the moon is a spaceship? Like a gigantic Death Star?? I missed that episode.

This show is great entertainment. Some real loons. It is interesting how many of there theories are themes in science fiction stories; makes me wonder who is copying who more.

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Maybe it's just me, but it seems fairly apparent that often times, especially when it comes to some of the more "far out" theories that many of the contributors are merely proposing a question given certain evidence that conforms to the specific idea they want to explore rather than making statements of fact or belief. They're simply exploring the possibility of an alternative idea and trying to get people to ask questions and think outside the box. You have to understand, The History Channel and the producers of the show care primarily, if not entirely about ratings and profit. That being said, the show has to function in at least some organized and structured manner such as each episode primarily exploring the theoretical relationship with a certain idea. Take the episode, "Aliens & Lost Worlds" for example; that episode is fixated on the possible correlation of the two given certain facts, archaeological discoveries and ancient texts. It doesn't matter what all the contributors truly believe, their job is to present an idea by trying to tie a general hypothesis in with the evidence presented. Usually for most ideas, at least one of the contributors specializes in the subject and truly believes it. Sure, there are absolutely a few opportunistic frauds on the show sometimes that take away from the show (William Henry and George Noory-Not sure if Noory is a complete Fraud, but he is a talk radio host and has no credibility whatsoever on the subjects so clearly an opportunist. Throw in new age whack jobs like David Wilcock who is literally always making the most insane comments and proposal and it's a recipe for critic or skeptics dream. On one hand, you have a respectable author/investigator like David Childress that has traveled to ancient archaeological sites across the globe and is an expert in the ancient world presenting an idea relating to Puma Punku and Nazca backed up by either a architect, Nasa engineer or prestigious college professor and on the other hand there's Davd Wilcock smearing his sh*t all over it by adding that the lines were actually built by an ET genetically engineered race of flying monkeys and a mysterious race of Elves that JRR Tolkein was given cosmic knowledge of by ET's because they wanted him to create the Lord of the Rings so badly to further advance the human race. Pure fanstastical bs based on no expertise, evidence or ancient reference. Only one's imagination and longing to be a Tolkein Elf warrior. Even so, the show is a lot of fun, especially if you have the ability to filter without taking too literal or accepting as fact to add to your collective knowledge so that you can form your own conclusions, ask your own questions and choose what you deem worthy of further exploration. Some of the stuff presented on this show is truly fascinating and archaeological and ancient sites around the globe that I've never known about or known only in name are opening my mind to possibilities outside the main stream and having me research further. It doesn't matter if it was aliens or a long forgotten technologically and spiritually advanced civilization far predating the end of the last ice age, either one would change the world as one of the most important discoveries of all time. This show gives all alternative possibilities a platform, not just aliens.

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Opinions are not black and white. But stupidity is eternal.

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