This show is a big FU to science.
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shareI don't think we should just shut off creative thoughts and outside the box thinking, no matter how absurd it can be from time to time.
sharei would agree with you, overall i dont think the show adds any new science, but the main idea of Aliens being there and maybe influencing our ways is interesting.
Since i love Sci-fi movies, this is a nice way to get some creativity flowing.
But many times i just simply disagree with the stated evidence or theories on the show (and would tell that to my TV), which sometimes make me laugh.
I do this too during Through the Wormhole or other shows like this, so im not just biased towards this show or its content (just to clarify).
But as another poster also stated, the people on Ancient Aliens are a diverse bunch, but also contain a few charlatans, but you can easily pick them out and take their words with even more salt (keep tequila at hand for a drinking game), others are genuinely interested in the idea, while some are just lost (like David Childress) in their fantasies seeing what they want to see. *pats David on the back*
But they've also had Buzz Aldrin and a handful of scientists and historians (acknowledged ones) on the show.
What im trying to say is that id like to believe Aliens have influenced us, but i have yet to be convinced by anything shown in this show, and i find it unlikely that they ever will, but that doesnt mean that i should stop thinking about the possibility, keep digging and searching, it might not even answer the Alien question, maybe it will actually debunk all of it, so be it :) Same counts for religion by the way, since our ancestors had religion so integrated, i just want to know where these things and ideas really came from, or how we ended up and evolved into what we are now.
If Aliens didnt happen in the past, it could have a chance to happen in the future, or we might even become those Aliens on another planet.
But this show does a bad job at providing undeniable evidence, some things shown in Ancient Aliens are generally unexplained things, but in this show given the Alien spin, which is alright with me, out of the box thinking could give us an answer someday.
But they have made some bold claims before (like the zombies and nazis and Japanese swordmakers etc.), that seriously undermines any credit they could have built up and makes me doubt and think twice before associating myself with this show, i might have overlapping ideas and theories with some of the Ancient Alien theorists (as they like to refer to them like this), but for now, im not going to jump ship yet, as much as i'd like to join their spaceship theories, im sticking to the mothership.
I disagree, in fact I think they use science a lot to back up their points. There's some things that don't add up like the leap from chimp to human with no link, the idea that our genetic makeup was possibly engineered from chimp DNA by ancient aliens is not that crazy. Like explain how FOXP2 came out of nowhere to be ingrained in our DNA
shareNo, it isn't. Science encourages the identification of alternative hypotheses. Should you be able to conclusively rule them out, then that is evidence for the original hypothesis, and if you cant, then well...
shareSo you're claiming that the ancient aliens hypothesis is falsifiable? How? What test can be performed to falsify the hypothesis?
shareSeriously, give me a reason to discredit this show. This isn't fringe stuff, in fact it uses science in its favor. I know I don't fact check anything they say, but they consistantly bring up valid points that catch my interest without sounding crazy. Has anyone actually watched the show? It's well done.
shareSeriously, give me a reason to discredit this show.Ok, how about they fact that they don't know what they're talking about? Like, they routinely get basic facts wrong because, as it turns out, they're not actual experts in anything. All their information comes second or third hand or they just fabricate it out of thin air. This is pretty thoroughly documented in the AA debunked video. This series stars a rogues gallery of charlatans.
This isn't fringe stuffUmm, no it is. At least if we're talking about the scientific community it very much is fringe pseudoscience. If we're talking about society at large then I would imagine a sizable minority believe in it... but then again a sizable minority also believe in ghosts, astrology, and the Loch Ness monster. And yet I would still regard those as fringe beliefs. share
I will give you an example. In society science places a big emphasis in the the Theory Of Evolution. On this show they have a quote on one of the discoverers of the DNA double Helix saying it could not have been formed by evolution. Then they have things like that sacred structures are in a straight line many miles apart suggesting an intelligent design.
shareRight, yes, Crick did have that view of abiogenesis. The vast majority of molecular geneticists disagree with him, and the fact that he descovered the structure of the molecule (which required knowledge of interpreting X-ray images rather than its natural formation) doesn't give him any particular insight into how it might have formed back in early earth.
And I would add that I don't really understand what the rationale would be behind aliens doing this. So they created life 4+ billion years ago on earth and have just been waiting this whole time? They've been waiting for ~1/3 of the entire history of the universe? Why in the hell would they do that? That must have been a blast for the first ~3 billion years when there weren't even multicellular animals to watch! While I certainly can't say that it's impossible (it's an unfalsifiable hypothesis), I steadfastly refuse the idea that this scenario is somehow simpler or more likely than life originating on its own on earth.
Then they have things like that sacred structures are in a straight line many miles apart suggesting an intelligent design.They claim this. I've searched online for actual data on this, like names and gps coordinates for the sites they use, and have come up empty. The way a scientist would approach this problem is to test it against a null hypothesis (that any alignment seen is due to random chance) by modeling what random chance can give you and seeing if the real world arrangements we see fall outside of 95% of the permutations. But they don't perform that sort of experiment on the show because these people don't actually think like scientists. share
Based on some of the responses in this thread, it seems it would have been more accurate to say that scientists regard this show only with a big FU...even those who reference the AA debunked video as if it was actually an objective peer-reviewed piece of work with no bias/self-interest inherent with it's producer.
So you're saying scientists say FU to both supporters and deniers of this show?
shareby Spikel » So you're saying scientists say FU to both supporters and deniers of this show?
Alright, can you clarify your statement? I know I seemed overly supportive of the show a few days ago, but I can see I was a bit over sympathetic to the show after watching more episodes.
shareby Spikel » Alright, can you clarify your statement? I know I seemed overly supportive of the show a few days ago, but I can see I was a bit over sympathetic to the show after watching more episodes.
Well then FU because you give nothing to back your claims which is worse than the show itself. I look foward to some legitamite reason to not trust the show.
shareby Spikel » Well then FU because you give nothing to back your claims which is worse than the show itself. I look foward to some legitamite reason to not trust the show.
And a big FU to the Egyptian slavers who built the pyramids.
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