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For Crying Out Loud... It's Only A THEORY!


I can't believe how SO MANY people here take this Hypothetical show so seriously and get completely offended by it...


This show presents was is called..

"THE ANCIENT ALIEN THEORY"!


THEORY -

"an idea that is suggested or presented as possibly true but that is not known or proven to be true"

"an idea or set of ideas that is intended to explain facts or events"

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/theory


Even during the opening credits of EVERY show, they ALWAYS note: "What IF It Were True?"

And yes, while it is true that some of the interviewees who completely believe 100% in their own theory, have to some extent, trashed the objectiveness of the show, that doesn't make the whole show full of nonsense and lies.


Archaeoligists have found REAL ancient mysterious megalithic structures that exist on planet EARTH, that YOU or I can actually go to and see for OURSELVES, that predate ABOUT 5,000 BC. According to mainstream historians, Modern Man did NOT exist prior to ABOUT 5,000 BC, and our ancestors only lived in caves and munched on bananas all day, and were incapable of building these megalithic structures.

So if HUMANKIND, did not build them, then WHO did?

This show only suggests (Unfortunately Very Strongly) that ALIENS built them, because mainstream historians won't admit the possibility that Modern Man may have been on EARTH, further back than ABOUT 5,000 BC, and there may have been some Advanced HUMAN Cultures who developed technologies and knowledge that helped them to build these megalithic structures, who then later died out or disappeared from history for WHATEVER reason, and left no written record of themselves or their knowledge for us to see and learn from. Only their megalithic structures remain.


The only other other possible answer to this mystery is... Human Time Travelers Did It! That sounds more rediculous than ALIENS...


Don't take the "ALIEN" part of this show so seriously! It is just a THEORY, a HYPOTHESIS. And to find the truth to any mystery, investigators have to start SOMEWHERE...


"Put A Little Love In Your Heart, and then Make Your Own Kind Of Music, on the road to Shambala!"

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I think the hatred started because it aired on the History Channel.

So while the ancient structures obviously are part of history, the Alien theory is not very informative, because it is all speculation, but often times the people on the show are positive and confident about their theories and flat out proclaim their theories as fact, which rubs people the wrong way.
(btw, i also disagree with several official science related theories, i think scientists can be wrong just as much too sometimes, so im not just bashing AA for speculating).

Personally, i think its all very, very unlikely to be true, as much as i would want it to be true.
People today are still really smart, but also really stupid.. it does not surprise me that ancient civilizations would be capable of great things, but could also be giant idiots.

Fortunately, religion no longer has such a strong grip on the people, and science can give us more explanations, but.. people do not seem to be getting any smarter nevertheless, there will always be distractions and detractions.

You mention timetravelers, i think they actually had an episode about that, saying that the Aliens that could have visited us in the past, might also have been a future form of us humans, before they went back to the future.
Or.. maybe i just made that up, haha, but i think they did have an episode about it.

I like the show for its entertainment, but episodes like last weeks (about Visionaries) just bore me.
Steve Jobs had contact with aliens? Even though he did not actually invent a single product?
Even the other Apple guy said that Wozniak was the real technical brain behind their products, the guy who actually knows how things work and developed them.
Jobs was more like the Wizard of Oz.
Jobs' supposed revolutionary wisdom and vision came decades after the first Star Trek episodes, if anything, maybe Gene Roddenberry had contact with Aliens too.

There are just too many low brow episodes like this, too many to believe that this show is really trying to educate us.

I like Alien stuff and ancient history, so i cant but help and like this show still, but i do wish it was more credible.
It is just typical that they never have a respectable authority on the show, although, that is a lie, whenever they do have an authority on the show, they conveniently never go in depth with them about the AA theory.
They are just there to tell their story, recorded facts that have no direct link to Alien evidence or sometimes not even related to the current theory being treated on the show.

It would be nice if they could bring in some science geeks on the show too, to get some discussions going, to create some more thought out theories.

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I think the hatred started because it aired on the History Channel.


Ancient Megalithic Structures from 10,000 BC? Sounds like History to me... I don't understand why people would hate this show because it airs on the History Channel.

but often times the people on the show are positive and confident about their theories and flat out proclaim their theories as fact, which rubs people the wrong way.


While I am not against the idea that aliens have visited us... I'll admit that I do NOT like it when interviewees say "YES, it was ALIENS". Because, NO, you haven't proven that it was, so don't say that definitely was.

But that doesn't mean I dislike the rest of the show, because of a couple of interviewees living in a fantasy world...

Fortunately, religion no longer has such a strong grip on the people, and science can give us more explanations, but.. people do not seem to be getting any smarter nevertheless, there will always be distractions and detractions.


Yes, I don't believe GOD magically snapped his fingers and created an AGED Earth in six days 5,000 years ago, and then needed Starships, emitting fire and smoke, to visit our planet after that.

You mention timetravelers, i think they actually had an episode about that, saying that the Aliens that could have visited us in the past, might also have been a future form of us humans, before they went back to the future.
Or.. maybe i just made that up, haha, but i think they did have an episode about it


Yes, they have mentioned this, at least once...

I don't believe in this THEORY, but it is an entertaining one.

but episodes like last weeks (about Visionaries) just bore me.
Steve Jobs had contact with aliens? Even though he did not actually invent a single product?
Even the other Apple guy said that Wozniak was the real technical brain behind their products, the guy who actually knows how things work and developed them.
Jobs was more like the Wizard of Oz.
Jobs' supposed revolutionary wisdom and vision came decades after the first Star Trek episodes, if anything, maybe Gene Roddenberry had contact with Aliens too.

There are just too many low brow episodes like this, too many to believe that this show is really trying to educate us.


Unfortunately, I agree with you. I don't really like these episodes, and I don't really believe in them too... They really do shout "Entertainment" right from the start.

But that does not make the whole show a bunch of nonsense... Those megalithic structure still exist.



Yes, I do agree... I wish it had more credible scientists with explanations showing more realistic theories.

But even though it doesn't... I just don't understand why so many take this so seriously and get all offended and upset, when it is still well known, that this show is just presenting a THEORY...



"Put A Little Love In Your Heart, and then Make Your Own Kind Of Music, on the road to Shambala!"

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I agree, i really like this show, with all its flaws too.

While i sure do lean towards the "non-believers", and i have my share of ridiculing, but i never took this show very seriously, i have seen too many serious documentaries to know that this is not in the same league, but i cant deny that i love the entertainment of this and seeing the ancient structures is always nice, they are beautiful and automatically makes people wonder about how and why they made them.
Alien theories are a nice addition or sometimes even a compliment to the mysteriousness of the monoliths, but it would take me a bit more than mainstream alien-talk to get me to believe in them.

My ridiculing mainly comes out of annoyance or disappointment, because as i said in my earlier post, i really wished this show was educational and more in depth.
Then the people like Giorgio Tsoukalos and David Childress mostly just make me laugh instead of hanging on their lips to wait what their genius minds can tell us more.
But i would actually love to hang out with them, just to be brainstorming about "What if", but i dont expect to be taught a lot.. mostly just having fun.

What i meant with it being shown on the History Channel, is that the History Channel used to be fact based and educational, but with shows like these, the lines become blurry.
Which creates the different "camps" of people in here too.
Some believe all of it and will defend their theories with all they can, some dont believe it and dismiss and ridicule the theories etc.

I think that this show should step it up, because theyve ran out of material anyway, weve basically been watching new seasons that are reruns and rethreads of previous seasons.
Those blurry lines should not be there, at least not on this level, we have not even met a consensus, other than constantly hearing about "Ancient Alien theorists say YES", but who are they? Aside from the same faces we keep seeing on the show.
It just... not enough, not enough for me to think that theyre really onto something.

Alien theories are not new, and AA does not help things when they tell us that they think their theories are facts, when we still have to see actual evidence.
They make it seem like they are connecting the dots, but ... connected dots are meant to form something in the bigger picture, but they connect dots to make full circles, rehashing and retelling the same things.
Their closed loops (or bubbles) are not what fits into serious research, they just arent the kind to do their homework properly, other than adding things to their visions (or illusions).

Having said all that.. i still will watch the show and hope for more to come, because to me its entertainment, like a weekly sy-fy flick.
The show peaks two of my main interests, but they dont go far enough to make me "one of them".

I do think it would be awesome if Aliens did visit us, or might even be coming back, but to actually hang my theories to it with such devotion as the people do on AA, is rather foolish in my opinion.
They overlook or dismiss/patronize ancient civilizations too much, we are curious beings, we might not know the full story, but we can rationalize and think, we can make inventions along the way that might not kickstart us into space, but we add them to the collection of tools and to the pool of knowledge.

But flat out denying that people could have built the Pyramids, therefore it had to be Aliens... i dont particularly like to think in those extremes.
For example, despite that i really dont believe in religions, i still consider myself Agnostic, because nobody truly knows THE answer, i just dont agree with what people have made of the Deity concept so far.

I really dont think people had to rely on Aliens to make the Pyramids, or for example, as the AA show even dares to claim, that Aliens gave the Japanese blacksmiths the secret to make perfect Katana blades, or instructed Hitler, or was the cause of Zombies in some cases...

The concept of Alien contact is very interesting, but many times i just ask myself: "why would they choose this subject to highlight Alien contact??!", like the Jobs episode for example.
Many times i loudly disagree with the people and theories while watching the show, i think its funny a lot of times, but more of a guilty pleasure.



I guess the problem is that not everyone actually sees this stuff as theory, and i partly blame the show for it too, the Narrator(Robert Clotworthy, who i funnily enough saw in a really old Columbo episode by coincidence, the episode is "By Dawn's Early Light", you can see him as a young teenager soldier boy haha. i saw his name in the opening credits and remembered it from Ancient Aliens, check it out if you can :) either way..) he is the neutral guy who only deals in "What if"s and speaks about "according to", but Giorgio & Co. often proclaim to know the facts.
The subject is a bit too grand or influential to be casually taken as fact.
The world would change if this Alien stuff was really true, and i highly doubt that there are conspiracies going on all over the world to try to stop us from knowing the "truth".
Ancient Aliens is just not the "end all", it might be credited for opening people up to the idea, but there are hardly any answers found here.

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Posted by mcdemuth >> I can't believe how SO MANY people here take this Hypothetical show so seriously and get completely offended by it...

Same here. It's actually humorous some times to see the lengths some go to continually and repeatedly include their disclaimers that while they like the show, they don't believe what's being presented to be factual.

Apparently, heaven forbid that those who adhere to mainstream opinion at all costs might actually think they consider such things to even be possible and start regarding them as one of "those" believers.

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Agreed. I enjoy the show, but I take it with a grain of salt, as everyone should. People today are entirely too serious about everything. I personally couldn't live like that.

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I don't think most people get this show. This show is all facts and ideas. It's thought exercise. None of the crazy theories it presents are presented as truth. Here's some old crap, here's some things that were going on, here's some coincidences, maybe it means something, who knows. The show never once says, Aliens came down and did this. The greatest thing about ancient alien theory is that it's a tool for thinking outside the box. Instead of just believing what you read in text book (which is just popular and agreed upon guesswork) you can objectively look at history with an open mind.

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Yes,judgemental people are so closed minded drowning in their "facts" they fail to hear the disclaimer/foreword being stated at the beginning of EVERY EPISODE: What if it were true? The show starts out with QUESTIONS.
The greatest innovators who made all the now "cool" things possible today questioned everything and challenged the "old,set in stone facts". That's what the show is trying to do,to get people to just think "outside the box". I enjoy the show not because I believe EVERY theory they throw out there, cause I don't. But it does get me to just think and wonder if ALL the things we read about in the History books is ALL there is to know. For all we know some "facts" could've been left out by certain civilizations for their own propaganda. Heck for those who read the Bible there are 2 versions, Old and New Testament with lots of "facts" being omitted from one another.

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Well yeah, history is written by people, and people embellish, distort or even straight out lie about the origins and happenings.
Especially if they dont like giving credit to a defeated enemy while taking over their knowledge on things and inventions, they would rather attribute it to God or something, instead of honestly saying "we learned about X because of the Y, who we drove out of their native land", just to give an example.

Many of the gaps in knowledge are indeed from dishonest storytelling and distorted history recording, or distancing themselves from the origin. Its the reason why the Dark Ages were such a disaster.
They believed in all kinds of crap, witches and monsters etc, it would have been a good time for Aliens to swoop in and take control(again), but that didnt happen either.
People forget or just dont want to acknowledge certain things, information will get lost over time and have to be rediscovered later.

I do like this show and thinking outside the box, but i just dont think that this show really does a good job at finding credible answers.
You can look at a silver spoon and say "hey, it kinda resembles a Grey Alien, what if... Aliens taught us to use spoons and maybe we made them in their resemblance".
This show does actually propose things like these too with the Japanese blacksmiths and more, so yeah, sometimes they think out of the box, but sometimes they just think up of garbage, not worthy of devoting a whole episode to it, like Steve Jobs and his supposed contact with Aliens, while Jobs never actually manufactured a single invention, that was all Steve "Woz" the Wizard, Wozniak.
It would have actually been much more credible if they proposed that Wozniak had contact with Aliens, but nope, it had to be Jobs.

I skip reading the bottom line, because it is usually some lame signature.

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"What IF It Were True?"


If it were then this show might make some sense. That's about it.

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And to find the truth to any mystery, investigators have to start SOMEWHERE...

Which mysteries do the "investigators" on this show need help finding the truth to?

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This show only suggests (Unfortunately Very Strongly) that ALIENS built them, because mainstream historians won't admit

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Agree with you on the ethical approach via theory, which of course takes most Americans out of their comfort zone as they are Carefully Taught "before they are 6 or 7 or 8" that everything is black and white.

It is THAT attitude of J Doe that ALLOWS mainstream historians/scientists/archeologists to get away with murder in their work.

The best ever example was Piltdown Man - look it up if American as it is banned in schools in America and the great irony is Darwin's ape-to-man theory was itself banned in America 90 years ago at Scopes trial.

So AA is a total breath of fresh air, but I am not American

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