Valiant Thor
I am a very open minded person, but god damn that whole segment wreaked of grade A bullsh*t!
shareThis episode made me laugh, because a few weeks ago they had an episode about Steve Jobs and his supposed contact with Aliens, and i suggested here on another thread, that if Jobs had such vision, while he never invented anything and his gadgets look like they came from Star Trek, then Gene Roddenberry also might have had first contact.
And lo and behold, they mentioned Gene Roddenberry haha!
Although i did not know that he was witness of a bunch of psychics doing whatever they did, so that was kinda interesting, but i wasnt actually serious with my suggestion, but the show was.
The Valiant Thor story was just weird, that guy compared him to the movie The Day the Earth Stood Still, but yeah, a bit odd that it would happen AFTER the movie, the story is also too onesided to be credible, why would he only visit America, it just reeks of the typical American exceptionalism.
I skip reading the bottom line, because it is usually some lame signature.
Yeah, 90% of this show has become a sci-fi fantasy wet dream. Way too much talk about stargates, wormholes, inter-dimensional beings, etc...I am only interested in the "ancient" alien theory.
shareSame here.
I just dont feel that the modern alien stories are as credible or mysterious as the ancient ones, because the old ones are much more comparable to the religion origin stories. Going back to early humans and a glimpse inside their minds.
I feel like we know too much now to keep it a secret, or at least being able to have credible evidence and footage.
I dont believe that there is a conspiracy about this, and the examples used in this show only make it worse for me.
It is interesting that some former politicians have come out about these things, but that British guy for example, was not exactly known to be a good politician, he was more of a slippery guy, so his appearances on the show dont really help me believe their story. I do not know the Canadian guy, but since i had a hard time accepting the Valiant Thor premise.. it all didnt really do much for me.
My favorite episodes are definitely the ones about the ancient part.
btw, i loved the Day the Earth Stood Still, but i think it is a bit of a coincidence that Valiant Thor popped up 6 years later than the movie, or more than 10 years after WWII with Nagasaki and Hiroshima, and not even during Einstein's revelation and disapproval of the Nuke.
I mean, what timing is that? Were they late because of Interstellar travel.. oh man, i just dont wanna go down that wormhole, not on such a weak premise.
I skip reading the bottom line, because it is usually some lame signature.
Agreed :)
shareI was just reading back the comment i wrote, but then remembered that the show has several episodes about WWII and Alien connections, with Einstein and Hitler etc., so, they do have that covered.
Those episodes are similar to the Jobs episodes and im not feeling those.
That is part of some Intergalactic, or even Multidimensional Puppet Master train of thought, probably David Childress' expertise.
Aliens using us as chess pieces, while they wage war over dominion of Earth etc., that kinda stuff.
Those theories can be interesting to imagine, but yeah, to me that is just pure fiction, be it thought provoking.
I skip reading the bottom line, because it is usually some lame signature.
The Valiant Thor story was just weird, that guy compared him to the movie The Day the Earth Stood Still, but yeah, a bit odd that it would happen AFTER the movie, the story is also too onesided to be credible, why would he only visit America, it just reeks of the typical American exceptionalism.
How do you know Thor didn't visit other countries? The only other countries with nuclear capabilities at that time in the 50's was the Soviet Union and the U.K. How do you know he didn't visit Russia or the U.K. and we just don't know about it? I mean it has nothing to with exceptionalism but the reality was there were only 3 countries in the world in the 50's with nuclear weapons. If there was a Valiant Thor it makes total sense he would visit America, especially since the U.S. was leading the way and testing the most atomic bombs during the 50's in the U.S. Southwest.
btw, i loved the Day the Earth Stood Still, but i think it is a bit of a coincidence that Valiant Thor popped up 6 years later than the movie, or more than 10 years after WWII with Nagasaki and Hiroshima, and not even during Einstein's revelation and disapproval of the Nuke.
I mean, what timing is that? Were they late because of Interstellar travel.. oh man, i just dont wanna go down that wormhole, not on such a weak premise.
I guess you don't know much about the history of nuclear weapons? The U.S. was conducting tests and setting off atomic bombs and nuclear weapons throughout the 50's in New Mexico and other areas of the Southwest during that time. You know, the same time the Roswell incident supposedly occurred in 1947. Just setting off atomic bombs and nuclear weapons in tests is not good for the environment or atmosphere and was something the U.S. eventually stopped doing in 1963. If there was a Thor and he visited the president, his timing would make perfect sense, that's not an issue at all. share
Well i had written a reply to my own comment, moments before you posted yours.
But i will say that the show covers theories that you propose too, but im not just feeling them.
Some people call me a "skeptic", because of my constant criticism towards the show and its content and presenters, but its not that i dont want to believe, i just dont agree with most of the theories that they propose. Same goes for religion and science too at times.
Im not sure why you keep referring to the 50s when mentioning nukes, since they were used first in WWII, which obviously was in the 40s, but like i said too, the show does have episodes about Aliens influencing the nazis or other parties during the war and proposing that Einstein had E.T connections.
But true, the US was a frontrunner of nukes in the 50s, but only because the spoils of war contained Von Braun and his work and Einstein fleeing to America.
I just dont agree with the theories, but i cant stop you from believing them.
I skip reading the bottom line, because it is usually some lame signature.
First, I have no idea if Valiant Thor was real or not and honestly I don't care, but I do find the show entertaining and it's biggest strength is when it shows architectural experts examining the sites of ancient structures which obviously couldn't have been built by the technology that we know existed with ancient humans at that time. So this lost technology aspect becomes very fascinating to me in Ancient Aliens.
That being said, the faults you found with the Thor episode seemed very weak to me and that's what I was pointing out. Yes, Atomic-bombs were built and used during WWII in the 40's and were continued to be used and set off in tests in the U.S. and other areas of the world during the 50's. A-bombs were expounded upon and improved after those tests and new and improved bigger bombs were created and tested like the Hydrogen-bomb and there were only two other nations that had acquired A-bombs by the 50's which was the Soviet Union and the U.K.
If Thor arrived in the late 50's warning Eisenhower to stop setting them off and to be careful about the path it will lead for the world, then this fits with the time period because the U.S actually stopped above ground testing a few years later in 1963. That's makes sense in terms of the time period of the story the show was trying to tell. That's not a fault that you were saying existed.
Just because Thor arrived in the late 50's doesn't mean it contradicts all the other extra-terrestrial stories like Roswell in '47 and the Nazis before WWII. The show was just showing that Thor was this emissary for the mysterious nine who are supposedly non-physical beings who've been watching over the Earth for thousands of years and were now getting worried because A-bombs were becoming more prevalent in the world during the 50's.
And it pointed out in the show that Gene Roddenberry got the idea for the Prime Directive for Star Trek from the channeling sessions with these supposed nine beings. If you've ever watched Star Trek then you know the Federation doesn't interfere with the cultural development of other civilizations because of the Prime Directive. That makes sense that Thor wouldn't have shown up right away in 1945 after A-bombs were first dropped on Japan.
by DethstruXioN » ...Some people call me a "skeptic", because of my constant criticism towards the show and its content and presenters...
That's PART of the reason I've called you one of the resident "skeptics", but it's not the only reason.
Another part of the reason is your constant use of the response where in one sentence you're saying you're not saying AA couldn't be possible, and then in the next you're characterizing it as something that should be summarily dismissed.
Or do you really not see how your posts could be interpreted in those ways? share
I don't know if Thor existed, but I think that we can all agree that the actor playing him in the movies is pretty damn cute.
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