Tasteless joke - Johnny English Reborn (2011) Discussion

[–] garyedgecombe 11 years ago

A certain senior member of our Royal family makes remarks like this on just about every public walkabout he does...and most state visits made by foreign V.I.P.'s!
He's always allowed to get away with it, so it's only fair that a scriptwriter be allowed to behave the same way with consequences.
The above points aside, the political correctness infesting the UK from all sides makes me sick!
We'll have to describe anything coloured black as being 'dark white' in a minute!
Along with our ridiculous Health and Safety legislation, our lunatic PC brigade is a blight on our society...anything, or anyone who flies in the face of it gets my vote! I'm no racist, my girlfriend is black, but i resent people constantly dictating to me as to what i can (or cannot) say!
Just how far are these loony PC rules going to go? I shudder to think!

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[–] OroVerde 11 years ago

Well that part actually shows the character development of English. In the beginning of the film he has this pompous attitude. He patronizes Tucker because he doesn't think he needs help from anybody. Later on he realizes that Tucker is actually useful for his intelligence and not just "someone to carry the bags".

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[–] Marlburian 10 years ago

In the UK, bagman means assistant, often in the context of policing; Lewis is Inspector Morse's "bagman" in the "Inspector Morse" series, and Morse himself is Fred Thursday's "bagman" in the prequel series "Endeavour".

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[–] Der_Schnibbler 10 years ago

Look, it's another American imbecile who found an excuse to feel "offended."

Get a life, you pathetic, brainwashed little pawn.

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[–] Nikostratos 10 years ago

"Look, it's another American imbecile who found an excuse to feel "offended."

Get a life, you pathetic, brainwashed little pawn."

Seriously, stop being so PC. Would you have batted an eyelash if the actor had been white? Did you see the first film, and how condescending English was to his WHITE assistant? It's the same *beep*

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[–] hisloverisolde 10 years ago

The comment is nothing to do with his skin colour and everything to do with the fact that he is an obvious 'wet behind the ears' brand new recruit which English doesn't consider he has any need of.

Anyone who is so quick to find a racial undertone in such an innocuous line is cleary looking to be deliberately offended.

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[–] mam13143 10 years ago

I honestly believe that some people look at everything analytically to find some offensive comment or act or whatever. Whether the written word or spoken by anyone in a public environment or in films. The problem is too many people take them seriously. They all need to get a life, and then get busy doing something with it !!!

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[–] belaglik 10 years ago

I think it was supposed to be tasteless and offensive. People sometimes say and do racist things and it makes them look the fool. It's refreshing to see a film that doesn't play it safe.

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[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

These 'race-related' jokes are always a powder keg, impossible for many people to take in the correct way they were meant.

For example, when a certain comedian says that 'whenever you meet a german, you are saying the normal things, but you're thinking, 'hitlerhitlerhitler'', it's not insult on the germans, but the people that can't see germans without remembering that sort of stuff automatically.

It is laughing at the narrow-mindedness of people, how easily they stereotype innocent people just because of some historical event happened there. It's not laughing at germans - same goes for the Fawlty Towers 'germans'-episode. It's not laughing at germans, but the british.

Same thing happens here - it's not laughing at the expense of black people - it's laughing at the expense of people that don't realize how times have changed, and still have those old, stuck-up attitudes about people solely based on their biological faculties that they can't help.

So two cases, where people laugh at basically racists, somehow are turned around to BE racist jokes. This is political correctness gone too far (not that it should even exist).

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[–] Sequentialist 8 years ago

I found that funny too.

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[–] den09 8 years ago

So a black actor steps up and Johnny English says " ah someone to carry the bags" It's in the script.

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[–] iroquoisjoe 8 years ago

Not tasteless at all. I mean, especially when considering the moral arc Johnny English comes around to in this movie.

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