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In reality, BBC had no other choice.


Straight up, I'm a big Jeremy Clarkson fan... as well as a James May and Richard Hammond fan. The combination of the three (and Clarkson probably the most valuable member of all) is what made U.K. Top Gear the vastly entertaining show that it was, for years. The lack of the Clarkson/May/Hammond chemistry on other variants of the show demonstrates just why these shows pale in comparison.

Remove one leg (Clarkson) from a three legged stool, and it just doesn't work anymore. These three guys, together, were great TV.

That said, Jeremy Clarkson was in many ways his own worst enemy. He knew he was on thin ice related to some of his previous behavior and he made mention of it. While I personally applaud Clarkson's punching Piers Morgan in the face, I'm not the BBC and this isn't a good thing for a British publicly financed company.

Regarding the "dust up" between Clarkson and BBC producer Oisin Tymon. There are, of course, many reports available online about what happened. The vast majority relate pretty much the same story. After a long day filming and upon return to the hotel, Clarkson became angry that there was no hot meal available and began to loudly berate Tymon. Tymon eventually started shouting back at Clarkson, who then punched him.

The BBC investigation found that the attack lasted about 30 seconds, during which Tymon did not retaliate. Clarkson continued directing “verbal abuse” at Tymon after a witness intervened in the physical assault. Clarkson’s verbal abuse included “the strongest expletives and threats to sack him,” and was “at such volume as to be heard in the dining room.” Clarkson continued using “derogatory and abusive language” towards Tymon and other members of the production team for a “sustained period of time.”

Tymon sought medical aid for what was described as a "split lip". He declined to press charges for the assault. Tymon did not report the assault to the BBC, Clarkson did, which speaks to both men's integrity.

So, Clarkson, as an employee of the BBC, has now been involved in two known assault cases in which he is widely reported to be the attacker.

So what was the BBC to do?

The answer is self-evident.

From an insurance/legal liability standpoint, Clarkson had to go. The BBC can't continue to employee one BBC employee that assaulted another employee without consequence.

In another thread, someone mentioned rapper "Chris Brown beat his girlfriend Rihanna and he wasn't fired, so what's the difference"? Only an intellectual dwarf would make this comparison. Chris Brown works for a record label, not the publicly funded British Broadcasting Corporation.

Regarding Jeremy's previously deemed objectionable statements... here's a few. While I cite them, I personally don't find, what are essentially jokes, all that horrible, but this depends on the "delicate flower sensitivity" of those that heard them.

In 2008, while driving a truck on “Top Gear,” Clarkson made a joke implying that “murder[ing] a prostitute” is a common pastime for professional truck drivers. The joke prompted at least one elected official to call for his firing.

In 2009, Clarkson apologized after calling then-Prime Minister Gordon Brown a “one-eyed Scottish idiot.” Brown is blind in his left eye.

In 2011, the BBC received more than 20,000 complaints from viewers after Clarkson responded to a question on “The One Show” by making a joke about “executing” striking workers in front of their families.

In May 2014, Clarkson announced that he was on “final warning” from the BBC, saying he would lose his job if he makes “one more offensive remark, anywhere, at any time.” That was shortly after British media accused Clarkson of saying the N-word in an unaired clip from a 2012 “Top Gear” episode.

From a corporate bottom line and legality standpoint, the BBC really made the right decision to release Clarkson.

As a gearhead (petrolhead in the U.K.), I know a fair bit about about cars, but Clarkson has forgotten more than I'll ever know.

As a Clarkson fan, I hope he learns what he should from this situation, moves on and becomes more successful than he's ever been before.

Let the flames begin.
















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Clarkson was in the paper the other day saying the new head [can't remember his name] just didn't like Clarkson and he was a politically correct idiot [or words to that effect].

i wouldn't be surprised if the whole thing was set up to get rid of Clarkson. and if it wasn't that some people at the BBC would have found something else to get rid of him.
















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When Clarkson was fired, did Hammond and May quit soon after or was their ordeal more drawn out?

"When you come to a fork in the road, take it." - Yogi Berra

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You are absolutely correct Jet, Clarkson is probably one of the most obnoxious people on TV but for some reason people find that an endearing quality. As James May said in an interview just after all this happened "The man is a knob, but I quite like him".


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I think most people would agree with a lot of what Clarkson says. and his comments about Gordon Brown etc are funny too.




















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Please, the conversation could have easily went like this..
Head of bbc: can you pay the man a couple grand, sit through a couple hours of anger management, and apologize. In exchange, we'll move this dimwit to another series, and you'll never see him again.
Jeremy: sounds fair.

Instead millions of dollars will be lost, and a complete train wreck of a failed abortion is about to be released upon the world.

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Piss poorly handled by the board and producers. I am generally disgusted by censorship and self censorship. But BBC's politically correct BS and lowest common denominator pleasing takes it one step further and are part of what has ruined England.

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And now the BBC introduces gender quotas instead of hiring the best qualified.

In addition, 15 percent of the BBC's 21,000 employees must have roots in an ethnic minority groups, eight percent to be gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender, and eight percent must have a handicap.

Ye gods! They have gone from stupid to insane.

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Or the conversation, in court, could have gone this way if a subsequent situation of Clarkson's losing his temper and punching someone else took place...

Prosecutor: Wouldn't it have been reasonable and prudent to terminate the employment of Mr. Clarkson if not after the first but SECOND instance of his having assaulted someone?

BBC: Mr. Clarkson assured us this would never happen again.

Prosecutor: Didn't Mr. Clarkson assure you this would never happen again after he committed his first act of assault?

BBC: Well, yes, he did.

Prosecutor: So why did you continue to provide employment to Mr. Clarkson, an individual well known to you to have previously assaulted Piers Morgan and later Oisin Tymon? Because he was on a TV show that earned a lot of money for the BBC?

BBC: Ah... uh...

Look, I hated to see Clarkson go. I think the man is both hilarious and truly gifted, but Clarkson placed the BBC in a position that, as a corporate entity, it had no other choice but to let him go. Imagine the legal liability the BBC would face if he did it yet a third time.

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What first assault?

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Piers Morgan... answered above in the post you clearly didn't read.

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I find no meantion of that incident.

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"The vast majority relate pretty much the same story. After a long day filming and upon return to the hotel, Clarkson became angry that there was no hot meal available and began to loudly berate Tymon. Tymon eventually started shouting back at Clarkson, who then punched him."


What I read, that was supposed to be from Jeremy, was that he needed to see a doctor for a follow up visit about potentially having cancer and the producers refused to let him leave and that's what caused him to eventually lose his temper. Which I definitely wouldn't blame him for losing his temper over something like that.

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I've never heard anything about the "cancer" issue you mentioned. Sounds like a "sinking ship" legal ploy.

Legally speaking, and simply put: Oisin Tymon, while a BBC employee, while on a BBC filming location and with the BBC being responsible for the safety of all employees, was allegedly assaulted by another BBC employee with a history of assault. The salient assault was witnessed and affidavits have been filed.

That seems to be what we, in "The Colonies", refer to as a "slam dunk case". <Please pardon the American basketball metaphor>.

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