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You don't need a gun to rob a bank.



Obviously this guy in the movie doesn't need a gun, he has a bomb, why even bother with a fake gun?

2. Banks don't give a crap about protecting their cash anymore. They're all insured. Many banks have an official policy to give over cash to anyone that demands it, no need for a weapon. You don't even have to make a threat, just say "give me your money" you can be completely empty handed. They give it to you no questions ask. I wish Hollywood would catch wise to this, because it would certainly make for comedy to have a bank robber who just walks in and out, doesn't make a scene and doesn't make any threats.

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Does sound funny to walk in get money and walk out with no fuss at all maybe go to mexico drink a few on the beach and the movie ends comedy gold.

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So your saying you can go into any bank without any weapon at all, and very politely say "give me your money" and they will hand it over? Yeahh not too sure about that one. Everybody would do that then.

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Haha the banks will just ask, "Do you have a bank account with us? :-) "
You gotta at least make some kind of threat. Even if its a whisper to the bank teller.

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Well... he is only half right...

I used to work for ADT Canada - we did security systems for all RBC and Scotia Banks across Canada. When dealing with robberies these banks have a bag of cash specifically for thieves. It has 200-300$ in small bills and a dye pack.

The purpose is most bank robbers are incredibly nervous, and just want cash and to get the hell out. They get this bag of cash and they don't count it - and yes they usually get away as far as I was able to tell. We didn;t get follow ups to see if someone was arrested or not... but the purpose is to appease their thirst for cash - without really losing much cash.

Plus The majority of the ones that get away still get the dye pack explosion ruining the bag of cash.

Most don't have guns, but say they do... once there was a female midget in a purple dress. She said she had a gun and got the bag of cash.

Another time a guy came in and shot a computer with a shotgun - he also got the bag of cash.

NONE of them ever get anythign else. Ever. Vaults can only be opened during certain time periods - and is done automatically. No bank staff even have access to open vaults off of these time periods. Even if they call and ask for us to open the vaults, the answer is no.

Unless there is a full fledged hostage situation of course... like in the movie...

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Theives actually got more money robbing people after they leave the ATM machines and go back to their cars. A lot of people are forced back into the bank to withdraw more money... thieves can get away with way more money this way...

You either have to take hostages (99% chance of winding up dead or in prison), or rob ATM customers. Bank hold ups don't work anymore...

Breaking into ATMs is fairly common to... about 4 per weekend at those 2 banks combined... so can assume 10 approximately ATM robberies every weekend in Canada.

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Bank robberies work in my area. From Stockton to Sacramento California bank robberies occur every week and most go unsolved. Many don't even bother wearing masks. But we are in a time where police are being laid-off and crime is rising.

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Seriously, as long as these thieves do not harm innocent people in the process, I am not going to cry and pity the banks.

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That's interesting. I know you're talking about 1 bank in Canada, but FBI's statistics show lots of bank robbers get away with much more than the decoy money. They often get into the vault too. But yes, I think it's well understood that for the most part, criminals are dumb.

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I understand that thieves are not going to get money from the vault, but what about the money in the tellers' drawers? There has to be more than $200-300 there, especially in a large bank, none of it rigged with exploding dye.

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I understand your skepticism. I have posted proof.

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"Everybody would do that then." i'm sure it's still illegal dumbass

CALL 911! NOW!

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> Everybody would do that then.

It is easy to walk into a bank, rob it with just threats, and walk out in under three minutes. It happens a few dozen times every day in the United States.

The problem is that they have it all on film and they search for other clues. If you only rob one bank in your life, you probably will get away with it. But you'll only get a couple of thousand bucks if you do this kind of quick grab and dash. Plus you might get a dye packet.

If you repeat the robberies they will catch you. If you try to make a bigger haul, such as getting money from all the tellers or from the vault, the police will arrive and catch you in the act. That's no good.

So, not everybody tries it. The downsides are too great for the relatively small reward.

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I'm pretty sure if you walked into a bank without a gun or a knife or any sort of weapon and tried to rob the bank you stand a pretty good chance of either getting jumped by larger customers who want to be heros or getting into major trouble if they have a cop there which...most banks don't have but that one in the movie did.

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This is why you do a silent robbery, giving the teller a note demanding money. This will keep customers and a standing guard from tackling you.

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Because the bomb was still hours away from detonating.


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You can possibly rob a bank with a telephone, too: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110912/combined


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No one would know the bomb was on a timer.

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Sure, unless you looked at it. Did you miss the giant red numbers counting down on the left side of the bomb?
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Sure, unless you looked at it. Did you miss the giant red numbers counting down on the left side of the bomb?


Haha. So if someone threatened you with a bomb you'd be like "Don't worry everyone. The robber gave me time to study the bomb and I've notice a countdown timer on it. So even though I know nothing about the bomb I'm pretty sure there's no other way it's going off."

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Dude, it's a giant red blinking timer. Besides, it's incredibly stupid to rob a bank with a bomb. If you want money so badly that you're willing to rob a bank, it's unlikely that the person is also willing to kill themselves if they don't get it.

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Yeah but like the other poster said, it might not be based just on a timer, so if you don't give the money then the outside person could detonate it, I don't think it's worth risking like "I see a timer, it's hours away, so we are good, I'm not giving any money." how would you know that's the only way it will go off?

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Once again, people who are willing to rob a bank for cash are unlikely to be suicidal.

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Yes but you don't know if a person with a bomb is being forced to do it from an outside source...they may not have a say in whether it goes off or when it does...like brian wells and this movie. If you refuse to give the money, the outside source could call that cell phone number and detonate it.

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Yeah if it's a real bomb strapped to them then they are either being forced to do it or they are suicidal.

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George Clooney did that in Out of Sight.

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The OP hit the nail on the head; I'm not sure about guns, bombs, or Canadian ADT, but in the US, banks don't keep spare ink-able cash bags for just in case of a robbery. There are similar "tricks" for monitoring robbed cash, but I'd feel morally compromised sharing how on here. Either way, bank robbers don't often get far without being flagged.

No, clients and/or employees don't USUALLY attack bank robbers, because that would be stupid; if you think you'd be a "hero", you wouldn't. Whether robbers are armed or not is highly subjective to anyone except the robber, and bank employees are advised with better intelligence than heroic reason.

To address a poster's comment about how, "...if it were easy everyone would do it..." that is fortunately not true; the amount of time a person WILL spend in prison for robbing a bank is soooo not worth it, and more often than not they do eventually get caught.

The topic of bank robbery isn't a funny movie; its actually stupid, desperate, and a massive pain in the tail for the victims involved. The story while based on actual events (however loosely translated,) is a tragedy of course, but it was suspected that this guy may have actually been involved in the planning of the robbery itself.

I'm surprised IMDB is allowing the continuance of this discussion...

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I understand the skepticism because no movie or tv show bothers with reality.

Banks are insured. That's the bottom line. If you rob a bank, they lose nothing. I don't even know why they use dye packs, probably gets them a deduction on their insurance. BUT THEY ARE INSURED. THEY LOSE NOTHING FROM A ROBBERY.

The most common bank robbery nowadays is done unarmed. And you DO NOT HAVE TO THREATEN ANYONE. Bank robbers simply hand a teller a note demanding money. The teller gives them some money, the teller signals the cops, the chase begins.

Why do people not do it all the time? Prison? Morality?

If you don't believe me, I can prove it. Look up the FBI's Bank Crime Statistics.

2009 Q3 (I think this is the most recent)

"Modus Operandi Used

Demand Note Used 641
Firearm Used 344
Handgun 333
Other Firearm 19
Other Weapon Used 20
Weapon Threatened 491
Explosive Device Used or Threatened 41
Oral Demand 657
Vault or Safe Theft 8
Depository Trap Device 0
Till Theft 20"

Total robberies with a weapon of any kind or threatened: 871
Completely unarmed and not threatening: 1298



I think I've proven that not only does this happen, it happens more often than not. The important thing is to find out ahead of time what tactics banks use. You have to get around the decoy money, you certainly don't want to be there with an armed guard. But it is a fact that many banks have an official (though not advertised) policy of handing over the money to anyone who demands it, no matter what.



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I used to work at a bank myself, and you are correct in saying that it's fairly easy to rob one. Tellers are instructed to NEVER resist if a robber comes in and demands money. Regardless of whether or not they are armed, that's a risk not worth taking, so tellers/customers should never put up a fight. Plus insurance would cover any kind of loses anyway.

If a certain bank is efficient though, robbers wouldn't get away with much. Most tellers I worked with had $2000 at the very most in their drawers, everything else would be locked away in a timed vault, atm, or shipped out. Knowing that robbers want to be in and out as quickly as possible, it would be very difficult to get away with a lot of money.

Moral of the story for potential robbers: get a job. It's a lot easier way to make money :)

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You guys are stupid. You don't rob banks anymore. It just doesn't work. Too much risk and your reward may never come as you get those dye packs. The real money maker is to hit the armored cars that deliver cash to the banks. Of course that's pretty risky as well but not to the same level as a bank heist.

Or you could just get a job and make some money that way.. you know.. legally.

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You are right, if you wanted to rob people, all you need to do is become a banker yourself.

They are the robbers.

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