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1.3 million Thursday previews.


That's an okay start but it has to be noted that it's lower than Alice Through the Looking Glass' preview by 200,000. We all know how that turned out.

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How did it turn out

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Horribly.

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But Alice Looking Glass made almost 300 million

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On a 190 million production budget. Factor in marketing expenses and it needed to make at least 500 million to break even.

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Oh it broke even, but I think what little magic the Burton-Depp Machine had is now lost

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No...it didn't get anywhere near breaking even.

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Where does it say that

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Rule of thumb that a film needs to gross 2.5× it's budget to recoup production and marketing and distribution costs.

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Hmmm interesting theory

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Rule of thumb that a film needs to gross 2.5× it's budget to recoup production and marketing and distribution costs.

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UMMMM....did you or did you not realize that by making this ^ statement you just Proved Justice League is a FLOP?

lol thats what is so great about you queen....You so awful at trolling, Your Own TROLLING Beats you....

like usual, here you are trying to troll on a Disney movie, again nothing new, You've done for Thor 3, The Last Jedi, Black Panther and Now Wrinkle

but hilariously, you just dont think before you troll, dont realize that Nearly every single thing you say about Disney When Trolling Applies to WB,JL or something else you relentlessly defend...

I've always heard a film need to Double its budget to Break even, but what do I know I've only been following box office for 15 years...

But according to you, it needs 2.5....I think you Moved the goal posts on purpose

The Norm in the Box office community is and has always been a film need to double its Budget, But I think you Intentionally changed it to 2.5 just so you can troll on Wrinkle/Disney...

I think you are afraid Wrinkle will make over 210 Million World Wide, So you Intentionally moved the goal post to 2.5 So Wrinkle Will need to make more money...

I think thats very SAD that you would resort to something like that but okay...You just clearly set your standards, according to you a film need to make 2.5 its budget before it breaks even...congrats you just accidentally proved Justice League flopped...

JL had 300 Million + budget and 100 to 150 Million Marketing campaign...

Lets through out the marketing campaign and just focus of the budget...

according to you, and your 2.5 Scale....that means Justice League needed to make 750 Million dollars in Theaters to break even...

Of course JL didnt, only made 657 M

this is what I'm talking about...you are either one of the worst trolls of all time or you are child!

You spent 4 months relentlessly defending JLs box office and WB.. and now on ACCIDENT in an attempt to troll on Disney...you PROVED Justice League is a flop!

not me, not anyone else...You literally Just proved JL is a Flop...In your own words, based on your own scale, JL according to you can be NOTHING BUT A FLOP

Queen, all you had to do was think....just think before posting, I get that you hate Disney, But at some point Trolling on Disney isnt worth it if its at the cost of 4 months worth of Trolling you did on another movie...

all you had to do was stop and think "Ok I'm getting ready to suggest Wrinkle needs to make 2.5 Its budget to break even, could this backfire?, are there any movie I like and defend that havent made 2.5 its budget back, Oh Ya JL"

you then would have erased your post after Immediately realizing that suggesting Wrinkle needs to make 2.5 its budget, effectively RUINS 4 months of trolling and defending you did on Justice League...

Its just not worth queen, whats more important to you, Wrinkle Flopping or being able to claim Justice League is a hit?

you can no longer ever claim JL is a hit...now by your own scale, JL is A Flop

Epic, EPIC Fail...

at this point I no longer need to think of ways to destroy you...all I have to do is wait for you to destroy yourself

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The 2.5× rule is when you include marketing expenses.

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The 2.5× rule is when you include marketing expenses.

^^^ ya but thats not whatStudios go by....The Norm as always been, A film needs to double its budget in theaters to break even...You clearly intentionally UPPED it 2.5 to troll on Disney/Wrinkle....but in doing so FAILED on just an Epic Level considering, by UPPING it to 2.5 you Just proved by on your Own scale Justice League flopped.

which wouldnt be a big deal(most everyone agrees JL flopped/disappointed) but You have spent the last 4 months relentlessly defending the film and its box office....So theres just no describing how big of a FAil it is that after 4 months of Relentless defense of Justice Leagues box office, ITS YOU who accidentally Proves its a FLOP

also I find it hilariously that you refuse to make any comment about it...this isnt the first I've brought up you Accidentally Proving JL is Flop...you also did it when you made this "SOLO needs to make 800 M" thread

this is now 2 different times you been so awful at trolling that While Attempting to troll on A Disney film, You Accidentally proved Justice League Flopped....

Yet every time I mention it, You turn into a ghost and refuse to comment, this clearly tells me, you are deeply embarrassment by your actions and have absolutely no response or comeback for your AWFUL Trolling that unintentionally resulted in you proving JL was a flop instead of trolling on a Disney film like you intended...

once again, your now at the point where, You Own yourself, Your trolling is so desperate, so awful, It nearly always comes back to bite you

I tried warning you, I told you, this is what happens when You pick the worst possible subject to troll on, for some odd reason you've chosen to troll on Disney, A Studio that right now is so successful you Literally have to create Absurd scales to try and troll...

Marvel Studios is 18 and 0, Star Wars 3 and 0 and Disney is 10 and 1 over the last year....this is unprecedented success, there no real way to troll on this

, by trying to troll on this can only result in failure....thats what happened here...You tried to create the 2.5 Scale to Troll....didnt realize that by getting desperate and creating this scale it DOOMED Justice League...

at this point, due to Disneys success, Trolling on Disney can ONLY result in Pain,Shame and failure for you....whatever Odd, desperate ways you come up with to troll on Disney Will ONLY DOOM other films that you defend....

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A wrinkle in Time will need to make 300 million worldwide to break even.

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No.. no cause no it was shot for 100 million

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105 million plus 100 million marketing and distribution costs(the norm for most major films). The studio only gets 50% of the ticket gross in America and even less in foreign markets.

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Hmmm interesting

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105 million plus 100 million marketing and distribution costs(the norm for most major films). The studio only gets 50% of the ticket gross in America and even less in foreign markets.

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completely not true

The Rule/Norm in the box office community has always been, A film only needs to double its budget from theater grosses to break even

and the reason is...Studio dont really count The Marketing costs....Studios count on Making Marketing costs back AFTER the film leaves theaters...

From Blu ray/DVD sales(now steaming sales), From TV Revnue and from Product placement....

for example, Lets take a film like The Bye Bye Man(A Low budget horror movie)

The Budget for this film was 7.4 Million dollars...

The Studio knows the movie probably has a 20 to 40 Million dollar box office expectation, Meaning at best the hope is, it makes 40 Million in theaters but at worst probably 20 M

The Studio would then set a Marketing campaign based on this, So Bye Bye Man probably had a 5-10 million dollar Marketing campaign

this marketing Campaign money would not factor it at all in the studios expectations for a Theatrical box office gross...

The Studio would Know for sure that, Bye Bye Man would easily make that 5 to 10 Million back after Its Theatrical release from Blu ray/Dvd/streaming sales, from a TV station like FX/HBO or others buying the rights...

So all the studio would care about is coveingr the 7.4 M dollar budget....as Long as Bye Bye Man made 20 Million in Theaters, The Studios Broke even/Made money...

the same goes for Big Budget Movies, Take Kong Skull Island for example....

Kong had a 185 M production Budget....WB probably spent 50 to 75 Million on Marketing....

WB wont care 1 bit about that 50 to 75 million because they know they'll easily make it back after Kongs theatrical release...

KONG Will sell around 50 Million dollars + worth of Blu Rays/Dvd/Streaming sales, TNT, HBO, or FX will buy the rights to show it, plus they made money from product place.

WB will only care about KONG doubling its budget it theaters...

as Long as KONG made 370 M+ in theaters, WB wasnt going to lose money....

The Marketing Costs dont factor in to what a film needs to make in theaters...Every studio, every box office analysts goes by ....The Film needs to make Double its Budget in Theaters...

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