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So was Helen a lesbian?


Seeing as to how she had no interest in getting married and was otherwise portrayed as somewhat asexual in the film. Wasn't sure if she really was interested in pursuing her career as a secretary when she said that to Hoover, or whether that was her way of telling him she expected to be courted for a longer period of time and felt too pressured.

Anyone know?

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I certainly don't know anymore than you do. Based on the movie, I think they portrayed her that way to show that there were other people who were almost as dedicated to their careers that Hoover was and how much he came to admire and trust her. After all, she was the one who shredded (or was suspected of shredding) his private files. Whether she was lesbian, asexual, or simply uninterested in marriage seems almost irrelevant, you know?

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The correct vernacular is Lesbian. Dike is very rude and hurtful. Not trying to preach to you but please be mindful of what you say. You'll offend people.
To answer your question, I doubt it. She just wasn't interested in HIM.
Just because a female shows no common interest in a guy who's interested in her doesn't make her gay.
I knows plenty of women, hell, even men, who are more into their career than marriage! Maybe she was just a workaholic. No time to settle.

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The correct vernacular is Lesbian. Dike is very rude and hurtful. Not trying to preach to you but please be mindful of what you say. You'll offend people.


I second this statement.

You are not in Kansas anymore. You are on Pandora, ladies and gentleman.

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I third it, but I know quite a few lesbians who not only use it but prefer it.

"Pay no attention to the man in the trunk."

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If you pay attention to the new world of gays, not only will you notice how rapidly it has multiplied but how people think it's just so damn cool to be gay. So people live being called homo, fag, queer, dike, carpet muncher an all the other jacked up names people call us.

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I don't know about that. Just that some lesbians I know call themselves dikes/dykes.

"Pay no attention to the man in the trunk."

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I know there are at least a few who take an absurd pleasure in such things but I wouldn't go as far as saying we all enjoy that because I certainly don't...

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Isnt the word dyke the equivalent of fag and n***er?

As for the answer... no. I think she just wasnt interested in Hoover but was very career orientated. I also assumed that she may have had a family, but i dunno too much about American history.

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I've asked lesbians before on multiple occasions whether they mind being called dykes and was assured not. But I accept things might be different for others or maybe times have changed so I apologize to you and anyone else that might have drawn offense and will change the subject line.

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It's none of your business, is it? Have mommy put in the Barney tape for you, and get you ready for bed. Little boys shouldn't be interrupting grownups when they are talking.

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If she were still alive today you might have a point. But as J Edgar Hoover's secretary I think it's important from a historical and sociological perspective to know her sexuality. Just like it's important to know J Edgar's sexuality since it allows us to come to a better understanding of him and his motivations. Same with Helen, unless you're trying to imply Helen just wasn't important enough, to which I would strongly disagree.

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Just because someone isn't interested in the cookie cutter lifestyle of getting married and having kids doesn't mean that their gay, I know because I am one of those people who don't ever want to get married and have kids. It's not like I hate children, but I would I much rather live in this world doing what I want when I want without having to answer to anybody. Especially a spouse and screaming mess making kids.

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I'm in complete agreement with you there. That's why I'm not automatically assuming she is.

Yet I think there was far more societal pressure for women to marry in the 1930s than there is now, which is why her independence does come across as unusual enough for the question to be asked. There just might not be enough about her to know the answer. It could very well be that she had no desire to get married and have children and this offered her a convenient way not to and if so, good for her.

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