I would rather have a dead son than a daffodil for a son.
Did anyone else find that scene hilarious? Especially the dialogue about the Easter bonnet and the hooped skirt?
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The intent behind it was homophobic and evil.
The intent behind it was to show Hoover's mother as homophobic, and to explain why he never had the guts to embrace his own tendencies. And no, I didn't find it hilarious at all. All I thought was, that poor kid.
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And no, I didn't find it hilarious at all.
You're alone buddy, it was supremely cheesy and cliche'd. If Mrs. Hoover legitimately said this, she is responsible for the birth of a very tired and worn out trope, individually sufficient to corrupt any progressing storyline concerning gay issues.
He's not alone. Do not speak for everybody. I didn't find anything hilarious in it either.
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I'm with you. It wasn't a 'hilarious' scene, it was sad. I thought it also hinted at the idea that she knew about her son and was letting him know that it was not acceptable.
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What proof is there that his mother was like that? It almost seems to place the entire blame on the mother for JEH trying to deny or hide his homosexuality. However, at the time, there were plenty of societal and political motivations for him to do so. One strong reason for him to hide it is he used homosexuality to blackmail and discredit his enemies.
So, without any real proof about his mother's hatred of "daffy", that scene was pure camp intended to help us muster some sympathy for a reviled figure. Well, it didn't work for me, I laughed when watching that scene.
It almost seems to place the entire blame on the mother for JEH trying to deny or hide his homosexuality. However, at the time, there were plenty of societal and political motivations for him to do so.
Okay, so why assume others wouldn't consider that just like you did? Obviously a lot of us (dare I say most) are aware of these motivations, so why suggest that the film wants to put all the blame on the mother? Having said that, the film was poorly written imho, a lot could have been included to give more insight into Hoover's actions and state of mind, or at least try to explain them better, but still, one - in fairness very typical and perfectly likely (things haven't changed that much) - remark shouldn't make us assume that Mother is the only one responsible. Plenty of us know better than that. And those who don't wouldn't get any other hint anyway.
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