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prequel series about Robert and Cora


I'd love it! Anyone else?

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I would! I remember when I first heard about the series, I thought it was weird that they'd set it after the interesting stuff happened (American heiress marrying British aristocrat and trying to fit in).

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I would love that. It could show something about the Levinson family and when the decision was made to take Cora to England to find a titled husband. We could see Robert and Cora's courtship, marriage, the start of their family and get more insight into why Mary and Edith didn't get along. And, I would just love to see the scene that Carson described of when Mary was a child and told him she was going to run away and wanted some of the family silver to sell. He gave her a six pence instead. She told him that he had better charge her interest. And he felt that he was repaid in full when she gave him a kiss *g.*


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Yes. I'd especially be interested in who would play Robert.

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who would play Robert




Based solely on age and looks (i.e. each looks like he could age into the Lord Grantham that we've come to know, even though they do not look like each other.)


I know nothing about their work, but since its not going to happen anyway, we can always imagine:


Chris George:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm5471867/



Lucas Till:


http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1395771/




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Exactly.

Personally i would preffer to see the next generation, Edith and Marigold confronting their past, those families taking sides or not with the fasists (a lot of aristocratas were fascists before the war), coping the ww2, when the goverment really went after those big houses and taxes increased almost to 80%, opening the house to survive, the kids going to college, the labour goverment after the ww2 and the introduction of the NHS, the beatles, etc. Mary and Edith are going to be old ladies seeing the first man in the moon.

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Why would you love it?




If given a choice between a Downton Abbey prequel or sequel, I'd probably pick a sequel because we could find out what happens to the younger characters like George and Sybbie and especially Marigold (when or whether -- and I do think its a when) Edith reveals that she is her mother, how that revelation effects her, etc.

But, I would also love a prequel featuring a young Robert and Cora, but not only them but a younger version of Violet and how life was for her and her husband, etc. Knowing more of a character's back story adds to the story in general. A couple examples that come to mind of what I mean is the television show Highlander and the movie Kingdom of Heaven.

In Highlander, the writers carefully developed back stories for all the main characters ... there were also a couple of characters who were only in a couple or so episodes who had extensive back stories, even the main character's sword had a back story :). The way all of that added to the story for me, is that when I saw a current scene and I saw a character act or react in a certain way I thought about it not only in terms of how it fit into the story, but also in terms of how it fit into the character's history. And things that were hard to explain by only knowing the current character became clear if you thought about what happened to the character in the past.

I also mention the movie Kingdom of Heaven because when it was theatrically released there was very little back story for any of the characters. But, when it went to DVD back story footage was added for a number of characters and what a positive difference it made to the movie.

So, I think knowing more of the history of the Downton Abbey characters
would enrich the characters that we followed from 1912 to or about 1926. I would also like seeing the earlier time frame. I also wouldn't mind seeing some characters that didn't make it to 1912 that impacted the lives of the characters who did.








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Thank you for your response, camimac. I'm not familiar with Highlander, but I don't know if DA has carefully developed backstories. I am personally picturing just "oh no Cora can't have a boy" being the big arc, but we know how that works out. I also feel like it would be hard for another actress to be a convincing just as good Violet.

I've never been a big fan of prequels owing to the fact that we already know how the story turns out, and I would personally prefer a story in the late Victorian period with new characters. I think one of the big features of this show was the huge societal change from 1912 to a more modern 1920s and I don't think a prequel would be driven by that, it would just be "lives during this time" and I wonder if that would be as interesting.

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Roger Ebert's Dictionary defined sequel as a filmed deal. Most of them are, as are most prequels, and pretty forgettable. Yet The Godfather II is both, and it's great. It's all a matter of the talent involved.
There was a prequel of Dallas, written and produced by the show's creator and with three fine leads, that I thought was better than the actual series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY14IgGKGdg

If this prequel deals with the courtship and marriage of Robert and Cora it would be set around 1888. No actor from the original series would be involved, and it might be enjoyable to see the start of many of the characters.
A tall young footman who keeps threatening to follow his theatrical ambitions.
A short ginger scullery maid kept in terror by a bully of a cook.
A quiet Scots maid who says little and sees much.

Sure, you know how they'll end up, but now you'll know a part of why.

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A tall young footman who keeps threatening to follow his theatrical ambitions.
A short ginger scullery maid kept in terror by a bully of a cook.
A quiet Scots maid who says little and sees much.

Now that would interest me. Though the young actors taking on those rolls would have big shoes to fill and if they couldn't pull it off, it would be better not to do it at all.

~In der Ruhe liegt die Kraft~

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It's been done.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k6K5lIvJPQ&list=PLC867D9E5AA02A9CC
You can probably pick out a Robert and a Cora, but they'll be less interesting than some of the other young people.

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The Buccaneers is a good watch for those missing DA. And based on some of the real-life American heiresses who snagged British titles in the late 19th Century, like Consuelo Vanderbilt and Jennie Jerome (Churchill's mother.)



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I don't know how I feel about it. I'd love something about the "American Princesses" coming over to find titles, but I don't know if Cora and Robert would be the right way to go....I'd like a whole new story, not same old story with fan service left and right. The same thing for a sequel. In a way, I'd love to see what Sybbie, George and Marigold do in the future, but I could imagine it would just be another string of war and money troubles.

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I'd love to see a prequel; it would be fun to watch the machinations of the Crawleys and the Levinsons as they schemed to broker a marriage between their children. What fortysomething actress could play Violet, though? Emma Thompson came to mind or perhaps Gillian Anderson or Helena Bonham-Carter.

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Samantha Bond as a younger Lady Grantham, a real challenge to play her regular character's mother, quite different but with a younger actress playing Rosalind. I think Lady Mary did something sinister to Edith as a child, and someone outside of the parents (Aunt Rosamund, corrected, thank you) caught her and punished her severely. Perhaps something involving O'Brien's past that gives insight into her persona.

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Aunt Rosalind


Interesting idea, but its Rosamund, not Rosalind.



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I would love this, to be honest. Robert has trouble coping with change in DA--what made him the man he was that we saw in the series? Exactly how long did it take for him to fall in love with Cora? Why did Cora marry an English lord--was it to escape her family? What was their courtship like and what were young Mary, Edith and Sybil like as children? And I really hated the Violet and Russian prince storyline but as Robert and Rosamund had already been born I'd like to see the romance that could have led Violet to leave her family.

If there were cameos and/or a downstairs storyline with a young Carson, Hughes, Patmore, etc. as outlined by one of the replies above I think that'd be pretty interesting too. And we could see Rosmund with her husband, why poor Rose ended up with parents like Susan and Shrimpie (basically what led to why their marriage ended up so badly as a relative contrast to the future Lord and Lady Grantham).

If anyone is interested, author Daisy Goodwin has a book called 'American Heiress'. The heroine's name is Cora Cash. Personally I thought the book wasn't very good but if it could give you an idea of what a prequel could possibly look like.

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