Look, I know the whole ninja thing is just marketing, but even knowing that, for you fans, why do you watch this thing?
Seriously, why do you watch this show?
Great questions.
The premise was of course from a Japanese show with a similar name and layout. It was partially Americanized, but still mostly entertaining.
With the outright bias towards female competitors, it has now become fully Amricanized and shall henceforth be known as American Social Justice Warrior.
I'll watch it to mock it as I do other shows that have a potential to be good but choose the low road.
Ignoring politics doesn't mean politics will ignore you. -Pericles paraphrased in <100 characters
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There are no ninjas, no samurai, no Japanese castles, no geishas, no Yari Ashigaru spearmen, ... not even a ramen stand.
IMO, the title is derived from the skills a Ninja would use to stealthily enter a building, such as hanging from a narrow ledge.
If you really want to get into the weeds, Webster has info about the origin of the name:
Ninjas may seem mysterious, but the origin of their name is not. The word ninja derives from the Japanese characters "nin" and "ja." "Nin" initially meant "persevere," but over time it developed the extended meanings "conceal" and "move stealthily." In Japanese, "ja" is the combining form of sha, meaning "person." Ninjas originated in the mountains of Japan over 800 years ago as practitioners of ninjutsu, a martial art sometimes called "the art of stealth" or "the art of invisibility." They often served as military spies and were trained in disguise, concealment, geography, meteorology, medicine, and also other martial arts. Popular legends still associate them with espionage and assassinations, but modern ninjas are most likely to study ninjutsu to improve their physical fitness and self-defense skills.
I guess most people watching this probably had or have a "I wonder what it's like to be a ninja" thought cueing up in their brain, and so they tuned in for that for the first five seconds, then wound up ... liking? the strange oddball obstacle courses created this thing.
I guess I am a history geek when it comes to terms and proper nouns. Oh well.
I guess the thing that gets me is that "ninjas" are a specific type of person, and it's like the people who watch this show, I'm guessing, mostly don't even think about what a "ninja" actually is, and tune in to see some home athlete navigate some very bizzare obstacle courses.
I'm just kind of not understanding how it is you can have an idea of what a ninja is, then tune into this show, and not see anything remotely referring to medieval Japanese culture, and "get into it".
That's what really gets me. It's like if I created a show called "American Knights Challenge!", complete with Gothic lettering for the titles, and a closeup of a medieval knight on a horse charging someone with a lance, and then throw up the EXACT SAME TV SHOW, with guys and gals in spandex wrestling gear, and told them to have at it.
It's like no one, except for a few history nerds like me, would bat an eyelash and question where all the medieval knights were in the show. They'd just tune in to see some crazy athletics ... the kind of contests you made up by yourself or with your friends.
But everyone thinks it's great. You could call the thing ... "AIRCRAFT CARRIER WARRIOR!" or "AMERICAN MASSAI WARRIOR!" and put on the exact same thing, and none of the audience would question it, or think to question it.
It would be interesting to know what kind of personal history the producers have.
I guess the thing that gets me is that "ninjas" are a specific type of person, and it's like the people who watch this show, I'm guessing, mostly don't even think about what a "ninja" actually is, and tune in to see some home athlete navigate some very bizzare obstacle courses.
The original Japanese show was titled Sasuke, the name of a ninja in Japanese folklore. When they came to translate the title into English they figured that no one in our culture was likely to have a clue as to who Sasuke was so that called it Ninja Warrior. Get it now? To be honest you are coming off as a bit dense.
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Not the TV show, no. I've seen the Manga on store shelves at Barnes and Noble, but otherwise I have no idea what it is, who the characters are, nor even the setting. I assume it's Japan.
Yep, it's Japan. And it's about ninjas. It's one of the best selling manga of all time with 220 million copies sold. And while it's among the best selling in Japan I believe it's actually sold better outside of Japan to the western world. Sasuke Uchiha is the second main character and he's one of the best ninjas.
M is fearless, she's the original honey badger, she doesn't give a sh!t! - Nekojita
I'm just saying that the name Sasuke and the idea of a "ninja warrior" is actually familiar to millions of English speaking people thanks to shows like Naruto which are more mainstream.
M is fearless, she's the original honey badger, she doesn't give a sh!t! - Nekojita
Possibly. But that presupposes that most people got their ninja-education from manga / anime.
Oh well. It's not important, really. But dudes and dudettes in wrestling leotards navigating big cushioned obstacle courses, seems an odd candidate for a "ninja program".
You have used that silly line several times now and it still isn't funny.
I'm presuming this is in regard to the Social Justice Warrior comment (it's helpful to use the <quote> function in a thread with several replies)? It wasn't meant to be funny- it is factual based upon actions the show runners have taken. No one should support discrimination of this nature.
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What does being a "Social Justice Warrior" have to do with this show?
Good question. A certain group perceives they have been discriminated against, which may or may not be the case. They at times seek social justice to remedy the situation as opposed to actual justice such as is found in a court of law.
Social justice has been defined as "justice in terms of the distribution of wealth, opportunities, and privileges within a society." (emphasis added)
Here's an analogy to illustrate unequal opportunities and a remedy using fictional countries and a school: A school gives out a test to qualify potential students for admission. Each part of the three given must be passed before taking the next one. Historically applicants from Slobovia have done poorly on exams, while applicants from Neatopia have performed better. In order to remedy the perceived inequality, additional opportunities are given to applicants from Slobovia. Using the principle of social justice, they are allowed to take the final (third) exam even if they failed the first one. Meanwhile, applicants from Neatopia that scored higher than the ones from Slobovia by passing the first exam after failing the second one are denied the opportunity to re-take the final exam.
Social Justice Warrior, shortened to SJW, is a term used to describe those that hold socially progressive outlooks in areas such as feminism and political correctness. They are generally found online. They attempt to remedy real as well as imagined inequality in our world.
In the case of American Ninja Warrior, the "remedy" has been to penalize better-performing male athletes for not just one year but now two. There is no legitimate basis for doing this on a show where the winner is based upon the best performance, so the producers have resorted to social justice (undeserved opportunities) to allow less-qualified competitors to compete.
Had female athletes actually been discriminated against, then there would be a basis for giving every wildcard to females for two years in a row. The success of Jessie Graff and other females has proved they have not been discriminated against, so the actual discrimination has been against the better-performing male athletes. A few members here have noticed this and commented on it.
Accordingly, Social Justice Warriors are running this show, so the name should reflect this. The fact it only required changing one word and adding another made it an easy re-titling.
Ignoring politics doesn't mean politics will ignore you. -Pericles paraphrased in <100 characters
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