What is Beverly's problem???

I know it's hard for people to understand but the US isn't the end all of success and you can be quite successful and happy in other parts of the world.

Are you kidding me?! Ugh. That has nothing to do with this conversation and makes you sound like a complete snob. I don't even see comments that allude to that ridiculous conclusion to which you jumped.

...there is something very comforting and appealing to leave the place of your "failure" and go back to your base, surrounded by people who love and support you...

Except when they were leaving England they said to each other, "who would you miss?" followed by "we need better friends." Yes, it was a joke, but you know what they say about truth delivered in jest. They also said they were reluctant to return home a failure. Remember the joke about the mass email, about having said to everyone basically, "we hit the big time. We're heading to LA; see ya suckers!" Then their show was massacred and they stuck with it instead of walking out or doing anything but putting poorly conceived crap on the air, and even after it was universally poorly received they kept the show-that's-not-our-show on life support for far too long. If they return home now it will be in shame and likely include ridicule and they may not work as much or get good projects because of that colossal failure with their names on it. Then the UK will hardly a safe space to recharge and be supported, especially if they weren't kidding about having crappy friends.

Yes, Beverly wants to go home. She believes she'll feel better there with what's familiar. The OP's point was that Sean's dream (to win a zebra at the carnival) is different than Beverly's dream (to go home to England) and that [perhaps because he's whipped/henpecked/browbeaten, as he admits] he's acquiescing to Beverly's demands and going home rather than chasing his life-long dream. The thing is they can go home any time but right now, in this moment, Sean & Beverly have been offered the world (and Judi Dench!) to do another show, to do it RIGHT, and to do it NOW, and if they pass up on that opportunity they may never get another one.

I'm with Sean on this. He's deciding to go home to appease "Betsy", giving up his dream, and he may eventually resent her for it, which can split them up just as effectively as an affair would (and did). They were worried about L.A. destroying their relationship, but resentment over missed opportunities and surrendered/discarded dreams is destructive too.
Is Beverly worth it? Perhaps right now she is; they just reconciled and he wants to make her happy, but before long he will feel the itch again and wonder "what if...?" and if she gets to go back to the UK Beverly will absolutely never leave home again to give LA another shot. Their best bet is to give it another go, especially now that they've learned SO many hard lessons and it's less likely they'll be duped or taken advantage of like they were the first time. Now they can get things in writing and use their advocate Eileen Jaffee to fight for what's right or get them the power to walk away if it isn't, and do it right so they can go home with their heads held high after having a rousing success. They can choose not to let LA beat them, especially after one experience. Yes it was hellish but learning experiences often are.

It has absolutely nothing nothing NOTHING to do with the asinine thought that Americans feel the US is superior to the UK and other countries; it has to do with Sean surrendering what he wants, what he hopes, and what could be to cure Beverly's homesickness, which could cost them both quite a lot in the end. That's all.



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When they were first seduced by Merc, they didn't know anything and took what he said at face value. Now they know better, and can demand that they have creative control and safeguards against all of the things they don't want to have happen written in their contracts. Don't take anyone's word, it has to be written and looked over and signed by the studio heads and lawyers and all of that. Now, if no one is willing to do that, they go home. But if someone is, they stay and give it another go. That's all they have to do, just have terms they need met in order to stay and if those terms are not met, go home. Beverly doesn't even want to attempt to use the lessons they learned or play hardball. She just wants to quit and go home.

If I was Shawn, no way. You want to go home, you go home. Since we were here, you slept with one guy because you thought I was cheating, and then you slept with another guy when we were broken up. Clearly you are able to move on pretty easily, so, who is to say what'll happen given other circumstances. You didn't give me the benefit of the doubt and you screwed my best friend the very day, the very morning you decided I was cheating on you, even though I wasn't. And you were never going to tell me; I had to figure it out on my own. Even after all that, I didn't screw around on you until months later, whereas you slept with someone else hours after wrongly convicting me of cheating without even listening to my side. I think you owe me the chance to pursue my dream. Just freaking humor me, even if you think I'm a fool. England isn't going anywhere, we can always go back to it. But this chance, and it is a chance, will be gone if we don't go after it now. I want to have you here with me, but I'm doing it no matter what.

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if their script were that much in demand i'm sure at least one of the networks would consent to full creative control to the writers. if i were beverly i would insist that i would only stay if they had full control.

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In other words, her utterly negative perception of their experience in the US is partly (or mostly) due to the bad experiences with her husband and their mishaps while there.

This is similar to a phenomenon I once read about. People will go to a foreign exotic place, meet someone, and fall in love. But when they come back to where they live, they discover that the romance was really about the exotic settings and not the actual person they were with. Paolo the pool boy isn't nearly as interesting in Des Moines. Probably fits in well with the phrase "the honeymoon is over." While there is some truth that a particular place can take on the role of being toxic simply because bad things happened there, more often than not there are also other issues. Coming to LA may have simply revealed that deep down Sean and Beverly wanted different things, but back in the UK perhaps those options weren't available to them. Back in the UK I am certain that Beverly had little competition for Sean's attention, but in LA that was a different story. So her solution was the leave LA, figuring that if she removed temptation, the Sean would once again be her's. But having seen the light, Sean is reluctant to leave. As long as it remains a situation where one isn't true to themselves, it will be an issue. Beverly can physically remove Sean from LA, but he may always resent her for it, and what value is a victory under those circumstances?

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financially successful,

Not according to Matt. ;-)

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"You should be out chasing beaver" - Something to that effect, that Jack Nicholson's character said in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Please share your secrets to divine wisdom.

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I think the character of Beverly hasn't accepted that things are going to be different. She is like a person from the midwest who goes to NYC and then complains about the lack of county fairs rather than enjoying the great museums. Of course, her real disappointment is with how the show was ruined by Merc et al, but she is taking out her anger on everything else instead. Of course, she could just be a buzzkill killjoy at heart regardless. She does team up well though with Carol as complete opposites, similar to Sean and Matt being complete opposites as well.

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