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what an arrogant, self centered character


i'v only seen the trailer for this, but i'm hoping its not an accurate description of the movie; that is the most unlikeable central protagonist i'v ever seen. She sorely deserves an ice pick through the cheek.

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I agree.
Lines like "I'm the main character of my life" comes across as arrogant and self absorbed.
But i'll see this because Reece Thompson's character seems like someone connecting with.

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She is disturbed...There are reasons why she says what she says and behaves how she does...

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She is disturbed...There are reasons why she says what she says and behaves how she does...
Why the fck is she so disturbed for? Birth defect in her brain? Canadian girls have no reason to be disturbed, unless they are spoiled brats. I keep hearing this sht about she is being disturbed and that there are "reasons", but nobody cares to explain those actual reasons. That's because there is none. She'd need a father who has strong character, and who'd occasionally take his belt off and slash in her general direction with it, then she'd learn the values in life real quick.


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Her mother died I think 2 years before the action of the movie. That's a pretty good explanation, if not justification, for behaving badly.

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Maybe I didn't use quite the right words. I'm not trying to say that she MUST act the way she does because of what happened to her, but I don't think it's unbelievable for someone to behave the way she does given her circumstances.

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You know what? I really don't expect people who were raised on movies with drug deals, guns, and urban horror to get this film. If you are looking for easy answers and characters who only wear white or black hats, look elsewhere. I thought it was a wonderfully surprising and unexpected look at real people. It will stay with me for a long time.

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Well, in today's society of "me, me, me" thinking combined with upbringing where so many parents spoil their kids which results with a inflated sense of self worth I'm witnessing everywhere, her character makes sense.

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That line came in response to the realization that her teacher/boyfriend did not see her as a real person with real value.


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Lines like "I'm the main character of my life" comes across as arrogant and self absorbed.


First, this is in response to the way her teacher/lover, Barry, has portrayed her in his novel.

Second, what teenager isn't "arrogant and self-absorbed?"







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This. Exactly this.

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We've all seen worse in movies AND real life.

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I didn't like Kat Dennings character at all and the story was okay, but could have been way better written. These characters were just so dumb with the choices they made throughout the movie. 5/10

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In the context of the scene it was a great line. She was calling him out for only looking at who she was in relation to him, instead of seeing her as a real person with depth and flaws.


Exactly. It was in response to Barry's portrayal of her in his novel, which proved that he didn't see her as a real person, but only as an object or someone who could 'save' him.

If anyone was self-centered, it was Barry. As someone older and in an authority position he should not have been screwing around with his student, much less expecting her to fulfill all his desires. He even tries to ruin her relationship with Thurston, someone who is more appropriate for her. Talk about arrogant.








"And all the pieces matter"

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The problem with the movie isn't that she was arrogant and self centered (she was) it is that it expects us to like an identify with her and her hipster garbage rhetoric trying to sound cool, the super "hipster" soundtrack featuring Stars and A Silver Mt Zion (Great band though) felt like it was trying so hard to be "indie" and cool. I have no problem with movies having a soundtrack like this but the whole point of the movie seemed to be to be hipster and to make hipsters feel cool for agreeing with the characters and for knowing what songs are playing.

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I wouldn't call Barry arrogant, I'd call him dependent. His security, his sense of self, is completely enmeshed in his romantic relationships. In his mind he cannot exist in the absence of someone to support him. When Caroline accuses him of not knowing anything about her, she's entirely right, because to him the details don't matter -- he just needs someone to rely on, and to rely on him. It could be anyone. Which is why he immediately turns to his ex after Caroline leaves him.

Regardless of how you look at it, he's a deeply disturbed man, filled with regret and bitterness.

As for Caroline, she is undoubtedly an arrogant, self centered bitch. So is half the world. I think part of what makes this movie so interesting is that the protagonist, while not despicable, will definitely strike many viewers the wrong way. But the character is complex and if you get past her vanity she actually is quite insightful and understanding.
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You hit the nail on the head my friend, that's also the reason why I didn't watch this film. As you can see they advertised it as "Juno through the eyes of David Lynch" or whatever (I don't see any David Lynch influence however. LOL) and it's clear to see that they took Juno's smart mouth but the biggest thing I couldn't get down with is the fact that she seduced the older teacher, that makes her hella unlikable in my opinion. I know the teacher was in the wrong too but she initiated the wrongness and I can't stand girls my age that try to go after dudes 10 years older too, so that might have something to do with my bitterness.

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