So he wakes up in rehab? or is he in prison or something? Anyone else see the scene?
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Yeah - just saw it last night. That last scene threw a curve ball & now I haven't a clue WTF happened!!
shareHe wakes up somewhere and the voice over says: "Get up, Weeks. Another day in paradise" and in the last final shot you see the wry (from anger) face of his father.
I've no idea what the director wanted to say. I guess it's just a sick joke.
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He is in jail. That was his face.
shareI was thinking as the other two characters resolved their issues, Kyle with his sister and Sonia with her father, they were able to breakout of the time paradox but as Michael didn't he had to relive his day until he does. I think that the Kyle and Sonia he meets will be alternate versions who will have no relocation of the past repeats so he will be stuck there until he makes peace with his father. Anyone else have similar views?
shareI would feel better if the director just let him die without this silly twist (besides most viewers won't see/notice it anyway).
shareI thought that ending was very poor as it made a nonsense of what had gone on before. So he was still somewhere in a time loop but this time we don't get to know because it happens so fast and there's only the little clue; "get up weeks"? Very poor, and you can just see it now, some writer thinking "oh I know lets throw in another little twist at the end". So they did, but why?
shareWhat would have been a good ending is if he woke up in a coffin being buried at his funeral and had to spend eternity repeating that day with no chance of escape.
I'll just pretend that's what happened, it instantly makes the film better!
I think you may be right, Sketcher.
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I agree completely with you Sketcher15. This is what I got from the ending.
shareI thought the same thing. Having faced their families, the other two broke out of the repeating loop and are able to carry on their lives. But Weeks, having not done so, is still stuck repeating days. Trapped in that 24 hours of time. Poor bastard.
shareDoesn't seem like a punishment for him. He seemed to have rather enjoyed repeating that one day.
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See I think they all die at the beginning of the film and they go to Purgatory. They still have free will there, and they are given the choice to repeat the same day over and over. The two choose to face their hang-ups, problems and fears and go up to Heaven. Michael, on the other hand, chooses to do evil and finally kill himself, and when he wakes up at the end, he's in Hell.
Sounds good to me. I really like that in fact.
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I hate how every movie these days seems to have to have a 'twist' ending, especially since nine times out of ten the twists are either predictable, stupid or don't fit the movie (or some combination there of). I have been writing scripts lately and I swear the first thing I get asked (at least once if not more) is: what's the twist? I've actually talked to people about scripts and script ideas and been pressured to put twists in even if they don't make sense.
At the point the biggest twist of all would be to have no twist at all. :)
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Yea..not every movie needs to have some twist ending...
This would have been fine without the thing at the end.
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Yeah but get this, I have a friend who recently finished film school and from what he told me they actually teach, as part of script writing, that you need a twist. It's like the first thing a lot of people in the biz ask when you pitch a script idea and there seems to actually be pressure to try and deliver a twist. It's really weird. :)
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Thats....kind of sad to hear. I mean, I love a twist ending when done right, but it doesn't work for every movie. Not every movie needs it.
That sucks to hear...
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Yeah and there's this one person he works with on projects sometimes who always insists on having a twist ending. She also always wants to do it so that it's never explained what going on, it's left to the viewer to figure out, which can be cool sometimes but not all the time. :)
He's also told me that he's been pressured to put in twists just to have them and has sometimes had to fight not to. We kinda have a thing, with the stuff we work on, to only do them if they make sense.
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Exactly! If it makes sense for the story, then I'm fine with it. But adding one just to add it always sucks.
Also, while leaving things to viewers imaginations is cool sometimes, it can get old real quick..
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What was really funny is this person was working on a script where the characters spend the whole movie trying to figure out what's going on only to fail. Imagine spending a whole movie watching the characters try to figure the movie out only to have them fail. :) I warned them it would alienate the audience.
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Ha!! Yea, not sure that would play well...
You could always switch that up and have the characters trying to figure out a movie, only to fail. ;)
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Well, this person is from another country and apparently where they're from most of their movies are like that. :)
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See I think they all die at the beginning of the film and they go to Purgatory. They still have free will there, and they are given the choice to repeat the same day over and over. The two choose to face their hang-ups, problems and fears and go up to Heaven. Michael, on the other hand, chooses to do evil and finally kill himself, and when he wakes up at the end, he's in Hell.
I agree with you Sketcher. Since Weeks never made amends, (and Wednesday was 'make amends day') he is stuck in the Wednesday time loop until he makes amends with his father. (who blamed his son (Mike) as the reason he was serving prison time.) The day changed to Thursday for Kyle and Sonia and initially Weeks thought they changed it for him too. Before he was woken up, they showed the outside of the rehab so I assumed he was still stuck in the Wednesday time loop with the Wednesday versions of his friends. In their reality, Weeks killed himself and died since they were out of the loop and on to Thursday. The director really didn't make it clear - he seemed to leave it open for interpretation. That's how I interpreted it.
I don't think this movie was anything like Groundhog day. I think it was a really good movie that explored the actions of an addict and the repercussions of those actions. That in order to move forward in life, it is important to face the reasons that led them down that path (such as Sonia and her father). That it was important to get some kind of closure for themselves and those they hurt (such as Kyle's sister) so they could move on and help heal those they hurt. Weeks for whatever reason felt that it was never going to happen for him. It appeared that his father wouldn't give him much of a chance to speak so he was unable to resolve what led him to rehab. Instead of trying to make things better he turned to a life of crime and murder. He was being punished in a way. His look of horror when he woke up was him realizing that no matter what he did he was stuck in the Wednesday loop eternally.
I agree with all you have said, but after careful consideration, I am beginning to entertain the following theory:
On the real Wednesday, it starts snowing midday. Everyone goes on to Thursday thinking that on Wednesday, Weeks killed two dockworkers, threatened Kyle's family, and committed suicide. Weeks, however, goes on to relive Wednesday with a fresh slate, doomed to repeat the day by himself. It would be considered another day in paradise if you consider it a gift to relive the same day without having repercussions, but after a few hundred years of not resolving the issues that led to addiction, it would be Hell.
The reason I began thinking that is because there were no clues in the movie that Wednesday actually ever began happening for the rest of society. It could be that the whole group therapy scene, where the director tells the group to go on a week long furlough to make amends with those they have hurt with their addiction, was really a part of the closure process important to Sonya, Kyle and Weeks. It is possible, that the concept of leaving the rehab facility to make amends was really a personal metaphor for breaking the cycle and rising above their destructive addictive behaviors.
This would also mean that the girl who jumped off the bridge was a metaphor for throwing away their lives, Sonya's father dying was a metaphor for permanently missing an opportunity to let her father know that she doesn't hate him but must move on, Kyle's sister Charlotte getting into drugs with Kyle's dealer doling out the goods was a metaphor for Charlotte going down the wrong path, even the days he went to the school to talk to Charlotte and she greeted him with aggressive dismissal could all be metaphor for how he has personally wronged her and the family. Weeks visiting his father in prison was actually a metaphor for himself, that Weeks is responsible for putting himself in a mental prison. The futility in visiting someone who is -like Weeks himself- blocked off from society, points to this cleverly. His father may be in prison, but Weeks never visited him in prison in the theory I am now supporting.
This also means that based on the "all-Wednesdays-before-the-final-scene-aren't-real" theory, Sonya, Kyle and Weeks all escaped the rehab facility without day passes-- Sonya and Kyle because they have forgiven themselves, Weeks escaped because has become a lunatic that has gotten worse-- and the only things that really stick in the outside world is Sonya moving on beyond her father's abuse and Kyle protecting Charlotte at all costs. Which brings us back to the two dock workers who were senselessly killed on snowy Wednesday afternoon.
Wild, but plausible...
It didn't look like he was in prison clothes.
And why on EARTH would he be in jail if he died at the end?
he blew his brains out so i doubt they'd be able to convict him and send him to jail. the building you see before he wakes up is the rehab centre.
kyle and sonia have resolved their 'issues' so their day doesn't repeat. michael taking sis hostage is in their (now non-repeating timeline). in the end credit scene we snap back to michaels still repeating timeline.
time travel creates all sorts of paradoxes.
I agree with the first line in your post Jumbles.
But why did Michael also continued to the next day, when only Kyle and Sonia fixed their issues?
everyone continued to the next day in this timeline - he couldn't just vanish from existence just because he was still repeating in another timeline.
when he wakes up in this scene, i don't believe he's just experienced murdering the two people and kidnapping sis. as far as he knows, he went to sleep on wednesday evening (or whatever happens at the end of the day) and woke up on wednesday morning again and he'll keep repeating that one day until he gets his act together which might take a while.
I think Jumbles is right.
share"i don't believe he's just experienced murdering the two people and kidnapping sis. as far as he knows, he went to sleep on wednesday evening"
I disagree. His last memory must be shooting himself, why wouldnt he remember? your theory doesnt cope with his face, his face makes you think he is surprised to be alive. My doubt is, is he still repeating wednesday or now thursday?
My thought exactly, Ricardolivo!
By the look on his face I get the feeling that he isn't looping wednesday any more (he might, but it feels more like he is waking up to a looping thursday). Since we haven't seen his start of the day during the film it's hard to tell.
One thing that could possibly point to the fact that it is Wednesday is that there is no snow on the ground...
OK, first of all this is a crazy thread discussing the "logic" behind the repeating Wednesday or Thursday = )
That being said: Why would it be Wednesday again? Wednesday repeated until apparently nothing more could be learned from it. Then came Thursday and Weeks realized that he was in pretty deep trouble and well, did what he did. He ought to be relieved to discover that he is getting a second chance, so why does he seem terrified the "next" morning?
One other thing I'm thinking is this: If the whole thing is about learning a life lesson or changing your views or whatever, then why does it start off by these guys getting an electric shock and why only those three? I bet there were several others in that place who could benefit from a life lesson or two.
I agree that this ending represents that Weeks is still in a time loop. He still has the unresolved issue with his father, whereas the other two have made their peace. This was demonstrated throughout the movie using a repeating technique. Every time the day repeated there is that noise and a flash of a picture. For Kyle the picture is of him and his little sister playing, meaning he has to make amends with his little sister. When Weeks wakes up in the end it flashes his dad, meaning he has to make amends with his dad, which he believes is impossible and therefore he is stuck in a repeating loop for eternity.
To clarify, we see two different versions of the character Weeks in this movie. The "real" one we see throughout the majority of the movie living Wednesday over and over again. And then the one that moved on to Thursday, took the family hostage, and then killed himself. The Weeks we see in the end never did those things on Thursday because he hasn't moved on. The Weeks who did those things on Thursday had to exist just so the rest of the world could move on.
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Yes I think you explained it well.
However, there is still the confusion over why Weeks woke up screaming. He couldn't have remembered what happened on Thursday because he would have repeated at the end of Wednesday, and not experienced Thursday at all.
The only difference is now when he meets Sonya and Kyle, they will have no memory of the repeats, so he'll be all alone now. But he could not know that yet at that point since for all he knows this is just another regular repeat.
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