Ending?
I don't understand why weeks wake up in bed? Is he repeating what day? It can 't be thurday because there isn't snow out there. So is wednesday??
I don't like that twist, the movie is good but nothing new.
I don't understand why weeks wake up in bed? Is he repeating what day? It can 't be thurday because there isn't snow out there. So is wednesday??
I don't like that twist, the movie is good but nothing new.
i think the "twist"is that because weeks didnt make his mends while both other two did means that weeks is the only one left repeating while the other two arent.
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All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for enough good men to do nothing.
I think Straz is right, because Weeks is the only one that didn't make amends he is doomed to repeat the day over and over, while the other two tried and succeeded. They made good use of the time given to them.
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Why can't it be Thursday? It didn't start snowing until a while into the day on the Thursday we saw, so it makes sense that Weeks woke up after killing himself - stuck in a new 24 hour loop.
shareSemaphore's explanation seems pretty reasonable. But why did Weeks pass Wednesday? He hadn't made amends with his father, so he should have been stuck on wednesday again. Guess he had to be present on thursday so we could see some action between him and Kyle/Sonia. Better put, we should just call it a plot hole.
shareNot a plot hole, somebody on other thread suggested the right explanation.
The other two exits the loop and they have a copy of the Weeks from last dimension, (this film is related to parallel worlds), so Weeks died (shoot him self in head) in that dimension, but his memory is send to the next dimension (time loop) for the same Wednesday until he will solve his problems.
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The other two exits the loop and they have a copy of the Weeks from last dimension, (this film is related to parallel worlds), so Weeks died (shoot him self in head) in that dimension, but his memory is send to the next dimension (time loop) for the same Wednesday until he will solve his problems.
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I'm going in a completely new direction because of the different voice waking him up (didn't sound like Bob). He loved being in the time loop because he could do all the bad stuff he wanted, so why would he wake up in fear? I'm thinking that he's no longer at the rehab facility... he's stuck in prison now.
shareMy initial thought was that Weeks was in prison also, as there was a flash of his father's face. I couldn't think of a greater hell for him than to be repeating the same day in the same prison his father is in. But the image of the institution shown just before we see him waking is the rehab center. as was shown on the opening credits. So I can only conclude as was suggested previously that the other two escaped the loop and watched an alternate dimension Weeks kill himself while Weeks was still trapped in the loop until he gets it right.
shareabout the ending...
After reading what others had to say I'm still at a loss.
I like what you wrote (and others) about the possibility that Weeks is forced to repeat because the other two have passed through the infinite loop.
I like that idea but for me something still doesn't add up.
Why does Weeks also wake up on Thursday?
This is a plot hole.
So we are led to believe that on Thursday they (Kyle,Sonia, and Weeks) wake up and everything around them is so similar nobody has the slightest clue that it isn't Wednesday? I have a hard time believing that.
Weeks must be driving in order to reach the barn, say the radios on-- "huh,a different song is playing?" [And I bet he's got the radio on to muffle the sounds from Sonia his abductee]
I'm just saying that anything from an airplane buzzing overhead to someone crossing the road to an animal outside in the brush... It sounds so unlikely that something wouldn't be noticed.
So this brings me to how I feel the end of the movie could have played out.
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Kyle speeds towards the abandoned barn whomping stick firm in his hand. He thinks aloud to himself "huh, I know Weeks probably has his gun.. hmmm okay next time I should try to find myself a gun too." He brushes off the notion that he's practically defenseless AGAIN. Leaning against a gagged and bound Sonia is Weeks. He's slowly pressing a hypodermic needle against her neck. She's ghastly white and trembling. There is an urgency buried in her eyes. Weeks releases her, he has a new game for the happy couple today and boastfully counts: ONE, TWO, THREE... Kyle swiftly grabs Sonia's arm, she tugs for him to come close to her. Their eyes lock she turns and whispers faintly into his ear-
"Its Thursday."
Running with this story arc, Sonia would later explain that she saw ------
(some detail) that indicated to her that it wasn't Wednesday anymore.
[Maybe a bouquet of roses somebody left for the girl who jumped off a bridge]
I know this way spoils the big reveal of the snowfall but it replaces it with a heightened sense of drama and tension right until the end. Whatever Weeks did the day previous will come back and haunt him that's for sure. And we can forgo that whole hostage situation with Kyles family while we're at it too.
"I couldn't think of a greater hell for him than to be repeating the same day in the same prison his father is in"
That would be the best ending to this movie.
Okay, just saw this movie on TMC's Splatterday on Saturday (not sure it fits but whatever) and try this on for size. Since the way out of the loop was to make amends which seems to indicate that there's an intelligence behind it (call it God, fate or whatever) so this force lets them out of the loop when two out of the three of them completed this tasks. Perhaps as a test to see what Weeks would do next (perhaps not) and when he choose, yet again, violence and ultimately suicide this intelligence plucked him out and put him back into the same day all over again. As for why he's reacting he's probably come to realization that until he makes his amends he's stuck there and that he can never do that because he can't make peace with his father (could be why his father's face flashes in).
Either way I can say I didn't care for the movie at all. It was way too clear what they had to do to get out and all the other stuff seemed kind of fillerish. It also frustrated me that they didn't seem to work out what they had to do until they had been through several wasted days doing stupid stuff.
Worse yet when they DO get to the point where they make their amends they've wasted so much time with the crime sprees and other non sense that they just kind skipped over the important bits.
I mean the girl goes in says a few lines to her dying father who used to rape her and walks out (and after all that build up) and the guy finally gets his sister to listen and it takes what three minutes to get through.
More time should have been spent on these important elements and less on the other stuff.
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libra113, I agree with alot of what you said in your post. There were a few things that bugged me as well:
1) Very early on, in fact, I think it was the first day the repeating started, all three of them figured out what caused them to be stuck in the same day. It was the fact that they all received the electrical shock from the prior night during the storm and subsequent blackout. While it kind of bugged me that they were able to figure this out so quickly (I thought it would at least take a few days of repeating before they deduced this), the thing that mainly bothered me was that them knowoing what caused it was completely irrelevant. Even though they were repeating the same day and the storm kept occuring, the blackout which occured on the 1st night never happened again, did it? I thought they were going to have an opportunity to "monkey around" with what they could do to stop it from happening. Like, "should we not accidently shock ourselves this time?", etc. But, that didn't happen.
2) I understand the logic that Sonia and Kyle made their ammends so they were no longer stuck in the loop. But, did they make their amends on the exact same day? Was the night that Kyle finally got through to his sister in her room the same day that Sonia finally went into the room and spoke with her father? I can't recall, but if it wasn't, shouldn't one of them had been releaesed from the loop already instead of the both of them still being stuck?
I get the whole amends thing, but what I had originally thought was that Mike needed to die and once this happened the loop would end. Sonia and Kyle both accidently died and they were still stuck in the loop. It was at that point that I started to think that Mike is the one that was supposed to be dying because he was truly evil and never actually had any intention of making amends with anyone, let alone his father. In fact, I don't get why he was in rehab at all. He was just so evil and was so quick to take advantage of the fact they were repeating the days so that he could do evil things and not good ones like attempting to save the jumper on the bridge. He relished in causing other people harm and knowing that he would get away with it was just the icing on the cake for him. I mean he raped someone, just because he knew he wouldn't get caught. Regardless of her age, he raped someone, and then tried to do it again the next day. But then the movie ended with Mike in fact waking up, so that blew my "Mike needed to die" theory right out the water.
In fact, like another posted noted, I thought he was going to go on the run after realizing they were no longer repeating because he was totally screwed. He had killed those two cops, for the 2nd time I do believe (no mask or anything, forensic evidence everywhere) and who knows what else. But instead, he went to Kyle's family home to hold his sister hostage which I thought was so dumb. I never got the impression that Mike felt as if though Kyle had the life he never had or something to that effect. In fact, both of their lives had been pretty crappy and it wasn't as if any of Mike's actions once they started repeating were Kyle's fault so that whole scene with him threatening to kill his sister and her friends made no sense to me.
I've wathced a lot of stupid horror and thriller movies lately, and don't feel as if though this was one of them. In fact, I'm really indifferent, I didn't think it was good or bad, I just wanted to add to the discussion and hear some other thoughts on the movie.
It's not nearly as complicated as you people are making it out to be. If it were, it wouldn't be so predictable. It's just bad writing. Don't turn a child's finger painting into a Picasso by inferring attributes that aren't there.
shareTo answer your question, yes, they both made amends on the same day.
Also, I agree that both Kyle and Mike had "crappy" lives in the sense that they were drug addicts. But Mike's dad was in prison, and we don't really get to see much else about his life. Meanwhile, Kyle has a seemingly nice mother, a sister, a nice looking home. It just doesn't seem like Kyle lived through the hell that Sonia lived through with her father.
Mike wasn't blaming his actions on Kyle. He was blaming Kyle for turning on him. I mean, Kyle did confine him in a boiler room all day and let him sit in his own piss. That's gotta be infuriating.
I think it's Thursday again, but I see another problem for Weeks. The day before when the other two were making amends, they heard on the news that two policemen were shot by someone in their 20s. Weeks was already in trouble even before shooting those two dock workers.
share There are no plot holes. The ending is fairly open and can be filled with a few solid reasons why he woke up where and how he did.
People love to throw the word plot hole around alot on imdb, but I rarely come across any real* plot holes in movies. Mostly just parts of movies people don't understand or can't come up with their own reasons why a movie is the way it is.
was the same day she talked to her dad
shareMaybe Mike was always in prison and not his father, the whole thing could of been a dream???
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I know this is a dead post, ^
but I've thought of this too. And, I'm pretty sure there was an "X-Files" (and also maybe "Night Visions" -- the 2001 tv show with Henry Rollins) episode(s) that contain the same possibility regarding the notion that a person "has been in prison the whole time".
However, the exterior shot of the rehab facility places the intended location and no snow on the ground states the day, Wednesday; so, I really can't accept the idea fully that Mike is in prison.
Nobody considers that in this reality "fate" decided Weeks was pure evil, got sick of his sh!t, changed days on him without his realizing (they were all full of adrenaline that day for sure, so they didn't notice the day changed until the snow) and when he killed himself, he woke up in hell, a hell with a prison and his father.
Oh, and why did Weeks go to Kyles house? Because he knew he was going to kill himself. He never intended to hurt anyone else. He needed someone who understood where he was at that time. He needed someone to say goodbye to.
He woke up in hell. AKA "Paradise"
are we sure that's prison? We never saw how he woke up on Wednesday or Thursday.
I think he made a point to God when he said he could never make amends on Wednesday. So then he wakes up on Thursday, the day where he royally *beep* up the day before (wed) and the previous day (today) he killed himself, now faced with having to repeat this day.
I don't think he woke up in Prison, I think he woke up in the rehab center on Thursday, where he will wind up in jail that day most likely or kill himself for all of eternity. And that would be Hell.
But then again, Wednesday and Thursday he must have woke up in the same way, so if someone woke him up with that Paradise line, then that would be a huge coincidence. Maybe I'm missing something. I don't see how he could wake up in prison if he didn't jump to a new time loop of some sort. And I think the best hell is the time loop of Thursday because he will be hunted down every day.
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