My sister rented this DVD while I watched it on Netflix. My sister says there is a scene where a female cop comes to Victor's door & says we got the results of the DNA test. I never saw that scene. Did anyone else see this scene or perhaps my sis' just dreamed it.
shareI just saw this on a movie channel... it did NOT contain this scene. If she watched it on DVD, maybe it is possible she watched a deleted scene, or perhaps a director's cut?
shareWhat was the point of Louise getting Victor's DNA and framing him if it never came up again? Bad writing.
shareShe wasn't trying to frame Victor, she just needed someone's DNA to make it look like a rape so that it would look like another one of the serial killer's murders. Because the serial killer raped and murdered his victims by slitting their throats, so she was trying to re-enact his murders to make it look like he did it and they would not question her. She knew Victor was an easy target for having sex and getting his DNA b/c he was obsessed w/ her.
shareI just saw the Blu-Ray, which had one deleted scene, which was of Spencer causing the car crash that killed his wife. I have noticed though that sometimes when movies air on cable or on TV, they contain scenes that weren't in the original movie--or even in the deleted scenes on the DVD (the Brady Bunch Movie comes to mind).
shareShe wasn't trying to frame Viktor?! Leaving his sperm on a butchered woman's corpse sure sounds like it to me, since it's impossible for anyone NOT to know about DNA in this day and age.
One explanation would be that the movie is supposed to take place in the 80's or 90's, which explains why the characters were still using land phones with answering machines as opposed to cell phones. Some of the cars did not look that old to me, though, like the police vehicle specifically. There wasn't much else around that could give us an idea of the timeframe IIRC.
EDIT: Maybe some of the newspapers that were flashed had dates on them? I'd need to watch it again and check since I can't remember.
EDIT2: Just checked, one news paper shows the date as 1995 which explains the phones. DNA already existed but I'm not sure how sophisticated it was back then, probably enough to make a case against someone I think.
All in all too many inconsistencies (why did Louise use the firescape to go back to her apartment the day she killed the lady for instance) and bad writing combined with the poor acting skills of the main characters - the final scene in the kitchen with Spencer, Viktor and then the officer for instance was so bad I had to lol - is a recipe for straight to dvd and streaming if they're lucky.
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There were multiple references to the Quebec secession vote throughout the film. I think this was the main thing to show the time in which the film was set.
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The way I took it was that Louise was using the fire escape ladder to get back into her apartment because she certainly wanted to go unnoticed & the entire building is so badly soundproofed. Remember how Spencer & her are "communicating" through the walls throughout the movie & how he awaits her when she leaves in the mornings?
IMHO, this is actually one of the most ironic moments in the entire movie - Louise running into the one person she was explicitly trying to avoid, both realizing what's going on with each other, while neither of them seems to be shocked about the other. That, actually, fits very well into the entire movie theme - they are all killers somehow, & they don't even seem to be concerned about it.
It's only because Spencer realizes that Louise has some kind of killer instinct in her that he tries to employ her in order to murder Victor & frame him, which - & that's IMHO even more ironic - leads to his own death. Of course Spencer does not know that Louise already left Victor's sperm inside the French woman's body so that killing Victor probably wouldn't have been necessary, which adds another bit of irony.
So all in all, I'd say Louise's & Spencer's clash when she's trying to get back into the house is the most important scene in the movie, not just story-wise.
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Of course she was trying to frame Victor. Everyone knows that his sperm would be DNA identified with the blink of an eye. She clearly planned for both guys to take a fall. And the fact that they didn't resolve that murder and the obvious DNA issue really sucks.
sharetrue but was DNA testing really effective in 1996 when this movie takes place? keep that in mind
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When she's in the tub and going over the to-do list with the cat, one of the things she mentions is that she needs sperm to make the attack appear realistic.
Nothing about that scene suggested she was out to get Victor...she simply saw him as a sperm donor.
Yes, all she needed was the sperm. She wasn't trying to frame Victor.
And having been an adult in 1995 myself, I can tell you that DNA use in forensics was still very rare. DNA evidence was used in high profile cases, such as the O.J. Simpson case. You may or may not know that it was pretty much ignored by the jury, as people didn't yet consider the technology reliable at that point. Things changed quite rapidly within just a few years, though.
Also, many of us still do use landlines. :)
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Ironically, I was living in Montreal during the referendum and remember all those 'non' signs. The referendum was a v. big deal and v. scary for Anglophones living in Quebec at the time. The referendum took place Oct. 30, 1995. I wasn't allowed to vote due to the fact that I'm American, but my husband voted and I remember watching the results, just like the characters in the movie. At that time Canada was just recovering from the Paul Bernardo murder/trial in Ontario. I remember hearing that had DNA been more sophisticated and better used at that time they would have caught him earlier. DNA def. existed in '95 and '96 but it wasn't as widely used as it is today. I don't think Louise was trying to frame Victor. I don't think she even considered DNA when she took his sperm. She just needed sperm to make it look like the NDG serial killer murders, and to take suspicion off herself.
shareUuuh, the DNA in the Simpson case wasn’t ignored by the jury because they didn’t consider the technology reliable.
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