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Why so many Kennedy haters on here??

posted 14 years ago by Sunshine_pink
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Sure the guy cheated on his wife, all the Kennedy men did....so what?

He was a great president, the Kennedys were a presitigious family and I am fascinated and intrigued by them after having watched this series as I was before.

I think JFK and all the Kennedys were amazing....they did a darn good job of running a country given the circumstances and the problems inhertied from previous presidents (eisenhower and Cuba).

I have not lost respect for JFK for what he did in his private life and i do not understand people who do.

Who here is perfect?? I would rather a womaniser who makes a difference and creates change than a man who is loyal and contributes nothing.

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[–] asc_gangsta 14 years ago

I'm pretty sure Eisenhower came AFTER World War 2, thus he was unable to liberate Europe from Hitler. The men who did that was Roosevelt and Churchill. Eisenhower was president in 1953, during the Korean war. Also, you do realize he ordered the training of the fighters for the Bay of Pigs, and basically planned it out completely? It was just his term had finished before he could put in the final go ahead. Basically, an inexperienced Kennedy paid for Eisenhower's folly and the Bay of Pigs facade goes down in history as Kennedy's error, when in fact Eisenhower planned it for months and ordered it - so much for an 'un-leakable secret mission'. Kennedy was left to deal with Eisenhower's mess and as a minority, young president didn't have the authority nor the knowledge to go against the advice of his joint chiefs of staff who recommended going ahead with the mission. However, Kennedy got experience out of the Bay of Pigs and turned it into one of the most successful Presidental affairs that puts him on the same page as Lincoln - The Cuban Missile Crisis. The fact is, Krushchev was intimidating America and Kennedy had the balls to stand up to those communists and make them stand down, and agree to American terms...pretty sure thats a victory.

Kennedy is one of the greatest presidents of all time. He is the indisputable face of the 1960s and is one of the leading political figures of the 20th Century. Your case on Jackie getting STDs from Kennedy is completely unfair and unjustified - no facts to support this must deem it mere speculation and rumor. Kennedy was our last real president, sure he has flaws, much like Clinton, Bush and Obama do in their own right. But Kennedy the public man - the youthful president supersedes his private affairs, which would be ludicrous to judge him o

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[–] psatm 14 years ago

General Eisenhower was the Supreme Commander of the Allied Expeditionary Force in Europe. In other words, he commanded all of the troops that liberated Europe in WWII. God, what an egg you laid in your post. And to think that you posted it on June 6 of all days is ironically laughable. Don't know what June 6 was? Look it up, maybe you'll learn something. Here's a hint: D-Day.

[–] asc_gangsta 14 years ago

Yeah, I didn't know that either! (Well I sure do now!) I always thought WW2 ended when we Nuked Japan. Oh well...

I'm still learning high school history, so indeed I did stuff up lol, but don't we all at times? After doing some more research, I think Eisenhower was a great president and General. But with the Bay of Pigs, wasn't it him to authorized it, and Kennedy just signed off on it? Kennedy couldn't have been in any position to decline what was authorized by the former Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces, could he? So in essence, it wasn't really Kennedy's doing, but he received the blame for Eisenhower's blunder, right?

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[–] doug65oh 14 years ago

In essence, you’re quite correct, gangsta. The Bay of Pigs operation was formulated during the Eisenhower administration. President Kennedy could indeed have nixed the whole business, but as we know, did not. He did, however, take ultimate responsibility for the operation’s failure – which in itself meant a great deal. The Bay of Pigs I think was a very hard yet absolutely necessary lesson for the President which once learned was never forgotten. One might say that even failure brings benefits.

[–] mimosa_mirabella 14 years ago

You apparently get your ideas about President Kennedy sex with a different woman every single day from tabloid type media. Even the mainstream media has been attempting to tear down the murdered Kennedy brothers for the last 30 years, in order to make people think their assassinations weren't as devastaing for the country as they were.

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[–] CrowFan 14 years ago

Every one makes mistakes, sure Kennedy may have cheated on his wife, so did Clinton and they are down in history of two of the best President's in the past 100 years. Arnold cheated on his wife and produced a love child, and hid this to protect his job... yet the right wing still voice their support for him. He made some good movies, I don't know about his politics but I like him as an actor.

Kennedy is one of the best Presidents since the founding fathers.

Jack and Jill went up the hill. Jack came back down alone. Jill was a terrorist

[–] mulhollandpsycho 13 years ago

As a politician, Arnold is a douchebag.

[–] galileo57 14 years ago

So now that you have informed the world that you approve of infidelity, Please enlighten us what made Kennedy a great President in his limite 3 years as President, and the two termer Ike a bad one. Most Presidential Polls list Ike amongst the top 10 all time greatest. As far the Kennedy's they didnt run the Country... we dont have a Monarchy here.

[–] Sunshine_pink 14 years ago

But why such a moral stand on infidelity?

who here is perfect? people have addictions, people have flaws- people are people. I am not going to put myself on a higher pedistool because i feel i am on a higher moral ground....i think that in itself is a flaw.

Why do people care so much and judge someone on what they do behind closed doors?

He without sin an all that......unless you are without flaw, then i dont feel you have a place to judge someone on what they do with whom ....

i am sick of people thinking they are better or more worthy than someone else....live and let live people

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[–] Sunshine_pink 14 years ago

Yes he was a cheater...he was also a president.

Think Lincoln wasnt a cheater? think Churchill wasnt a drug addict?

Think Ghandi was a good family man/husband?

Men and women who have done something good, who have made a difference have had flaws- which is a human trait. JFK may be *beep* every woman in site but he is still one of the most popular and honoured presidents.

Jackie may not have been happy but she was born into more wealth and comfort than most women- she could have left, she could have made a stand....you dont need to be unhappy if you dont have to- she had the means to make a difference in her life (which is more than what most women have, who stay with violent partners or abusive relationships because they havent the means/education/privilage to make it on their own)

No man is perfect....but rather an imperfect man who makes a difference than a man who claims to be without flaws who achieves nothing

[–] treygarcia 14 years ago

If Goerge W. Bush had been President during the cuban missle crises with his group all you can say is goodbye to world as we know it today utter nuclear holocasut. The poise alone earns him a higher spot despite a tragicaly cut short life and presidency

[–] generationofswine 11 years ago

Please enlighten us what made Kennedy a great President in his limite 3 years as President

He saved the world from nuclear Armageddon that's what made Kennedy a great President.

PBSUCCESS, Allen Dulles, & the groundwork for the Bay of Pigs, is what made Ike a bad president.

Vietnam is what made Robert McNamara an SOB.

[–] CitizenCairParavel 14 years ago

PLUS one of the first things he did was to CUT TAXES in order to rejuvenate the country's economy. I wish Pres. Obama would do the same!

[–] Mercader79 14 years ago

1. JFK had lots of affairs. This isn't tabloid gossip. It's historical record.
2. Is this to his credit? No.
3. Are all adulterers bad presidents? Clearly not. FDR, Clinton, Ike were all good presidents and adulterers. Nixon, Carter and Bush II were all as far as I know loyal husbands. And bad presidents.
4.Was JFK a good president?
Mixed:
Good: He kept his nerve in the missile crisis, advanced civil rights, inspired and lifted the west with his rhetoric and helped the economy.
Bad: Achieved relatively little because he died three years into office. Bay of Pigs a big cock up. Started escalating Vietnam although may have pulled out later.
Conclusion: Do you really think the world would have been any less devastated by his death had they known about his affairs? No. Clearly he was doing something right.

[–] pap25 13 years ago

Yeah the "government" which killed him pretends to respect him but spreads misinformation and taints his legacy at the same time.

JFK was not flawless, but he was genuine and cared about people. He was the last true president, not a puppet like all presidents that followed. Sad there are people who swallow the lies spread by the media and the government and refuse to believe he wasn't murdered by Lee Harvey Oswald.

[–] d_henderson1810 11 years ago

If the OP dismisses adultery as "so what?", hope that he or she feel the same way if their own spouse cheated on them.

Methinks that the OP would sing a different tune if their cheated on him/her.

[–] tody711 11 years ago

The Kennedys were a hell of a lot better family to look up to than the one we have got stuck with today....