MovieChat Forums > Teen Mom (2009) Discussion > I CAN NOT STAND IT when people still

I CAN NOT STAND IT when people still


say that Amber has 'come a long way' on Twitter/comments etc.. I read this statement a few times yesterday.

Like really? She tried to punch her cast mate on TV, how on earth has she come a long way? She is engaged to a dude that clearly is only out for her money and the fame and she has REPEATEDLY ignored all the red flags.

She has no job, yeah house flipping but what is her role in that? I mean I don't see her getting off her couch and be actively involved in the construction work. Correct me if I am wrong but she still hasn't gotten her GED/High school diploma has she?

As for her daughter Leah, well. Just seems to me that Amber isn't active in her life at all. We see Leah (TM2) going to the girlses school functions or taking them to choir/cheerleading in the show and on Instagram..etc. I don't recall Amber talking about Leah's hobbies and what not (again correct me if am wrong).
Not saying that ALL MOTHERS should be running around driving their kids to a million of hobbies but Amber either just doesn't care or is lazy AF.

Okay, the Pedophile comment incident is uncalled for but what annoys me about Amber is that she is failing to see that Matt means trouble. Her getting violent with Farrah is because of Matt.

Remember when Farrah tried to warn her about Matt and called her? So Farrah is the bad guy now?I don't get it. Amber obviously hasn't changed/improved much and people still think she has won the Nobel prize or something.


RANT OVER (SORRY for the long post)
.

Thoughts?

Dear Warden. You were right. Salvation lies within.

reply

I hate that she uses "I don't care about his past, he's a better man today." as an excuse to save herself from looking dumb. She's basically telling everyone she has no standards. Of course he treats you right and hasn't burned you ... Yet. You're his meal ticket dummy.

reply

<stands up and applauds>
Dead on accurate

reply

I agree and she's posted some video rants on instagram yesterday and it really sounds like she back on drugs again. Maybe painkillers from her operation?

reply

I think the phrase "Ambers come along way" comes from her no longer being on drugs...she is getting all moody and stuff again though. She could be back on them to lose control like that.

reply

Saying she's come a long way doesn't mean she's perfect, but if you look at her a few years ago,yes she has come a long way, but she also has a long way to go. Most people are referring to her coming a long way due to her drug addition.

reply

She wouldn't even be flipping houses if it wasn't for the MTV paychecks. She wouldn't have Matt either.

Can you imagine where all these people would be if they had never been on MTV at all or only the one episode of 16 &amp; Pregnant?

I know she's not on drugs anymore (???) but she chose jail over treatment. I have a hard time praising that choice. I know she said that she felt that was the only way she would stay clean. But it kept her away from Leah and led to the custody issues that bother her.

If she's still clean that's great but I don't look at her as a role model. She was calling herself that when she was talking about losing weight. She didn't want to let down all those people who look up to her.

I'm having a hard time thinking of all the wonderful qualities she has that other people would want for their lives.

Is she still staying in bed until at least 10:30 in the morning? I know she was up for Leah's 1st day of school but was that an exception to the rule?


Btw, Sophia is DOOMED! !

reply

I know she's not on drugs anymore (???) but she chose jail over treatment. I have a hard time praising that choice. I know she said that she felt that was the only way she would stay clean. But it kept her away from Leah and led to the custody issues that bother her.

I was hard her for that choice, but honestly looking back at it now, it was the right choice for her. What rehab usually last 30-90 days.then what happens she gets out and starts using again. You say jail kept her away from Leah but wouldnt relapsing time and time again keep her away from Leah and do worse damage to her and Leah's relationship in the long run.

reply

And I personally, can't praise someone who says that they can't work a program to stay clean. . I can't say she's a role model. I think it's sad that she couldn't stay out of jail and fight hard to stay clean and sober. I'm not positive she is sober now.
But that's what's great, we all have different opinions. Just because I don't see her as a role model doesn't mean you can't. Cheers!!

reply

Where in my post did I say she was a role model for anyone? I have never said that, so don't put words in my mouth. Thinking someone has a come along way from where they were years ago doesnt mean they are role models.

reply

She did go to rehab first but that didn't work for her.

"Sometimes what I type doesn't make any sense because of the iPad."— By Me.

reply

It is so refreshing to hear someone poi your these things. She has come so far from what? Being a lunatic high on drugs and getting violent? Yes, siting in the couch all day complaining is a huge step from old Amber before prison.

Let's look at the facts. She has admitted that she is in fact, an addict. She also suffers from multiple mental illnesses. Borderline personality disorder is very serious. A lot of therapists don't even want to work with people that have that diagnosis because they are so difficult.

I do not believe she is sober at all. She is with Matt whom anyone watching can surmize is a deadbeat dad, amongst other things. He will ride Amber's coattail sad long as he can get away with it. Her family even tried to warn her they were worried about her being with him. She however has blinders on.

Dr. Drew cannot prove she is sober by flashing a light on her eyes. Why is she so concerned with proving she isn't. If she is sober, I think she would be less defensive about it.

I think she is using due to her Instagram videos, and her lazy loaf behaviors in addition to her choice in a mate.

Bottom line, she is a Trainwreck and the saddest story on Teen Mom OG.

reply

Has Amber been diagnosed with borderline personality disorder? I must have missed that, but I can see it. She actually has traits that remind me of a cousin with it. I know that's anecdotal, but Amber definitely has so many of the criteria for it; chronic feelings of emptiness and boredom, instability in self-image and goals, substance abuse and impulsive spending, dranatic mood shifts, and quick to anger.

All can look like a mood disorder, but these are definitely ingrained in Amber's personality.

reply

She states in an episode this season while looking at a property they were scouting saying she was diagnosed with borderline personality, bi polar and anxiety/depression. She went on further to state that she was taking Busperon (spelling?) an anti anxiety medication and not Xanax. Therefore she said she is kinda mellowed out but doesn't get the same relief as a benzodiazepine.

I am not critical of her diagnosis in anyway. I'm just saying I find it extremely hard to believe she isn't using some substance regularly. Her habits shown on the show would lead me to believe she is getting high. She doesn't socialize with anyone other than Matt or her daughter. She lays around constantly and doesn't work a regular job. I think if she was sober we might hear about her going to NA meetings or talking to a sponsor or something. None of that. She is always pushing the "I'm sober people!!!" Too often.

reply

Thanks for filling me in. I have missed a few episodes. You're not being critical at all. I have wondered about Amber and substance abuse pretty much since OG started. It's very difficult to continue to drink as she does since she enjoyed "downers" before. I'm not saying she's an alcoholic, but that can be a slippery slope. Even a couple of drinks could "ding" her benzo receptors, and then she's off seeking her drug of choice. I don't know much about Busperone at all, but if she's comparing it to benzos, I do wonder if she's having cravings at the least. At worst, she has used again.

Dr. Drew's credibility continues to sink when he vouches for Amber becsuse she's looked sober. Not exactly a reliable test, Dr. Drew! Ambers comments and actions make for an understandable suspicion that she isn't clean. I know she said NA didn't "work" for her, but doing nothing except "white knuckling t" is a bad approach. When I hear her say she replaced her pill addiction with food, I think, "maybe she is on the road to understanding her addictions," but then she falls short.

Even her tackling the food addiction... she said cutting sugar and carbs isn't good in the long term, it's about life style changes, blah blah blah, but then Amber gets on some "plan" where she only will eat one meal a day and substitute the rest with drinks and bars. Uh, how will that work in the long term? How about exercise and general healthy eating habits?

Her responsibilities are few, yet she gets frustrated easily. I've thought she's looked a llittle doped up... a little slower. I hope I'm wrong and she's not using recreational drugs, but I have wondered it when looking at everything we see. She just does not manage her life well, and with no support system, relapse is likely.

reply

then Amber gets on some "plan" where she only will eat one meal a day and substitute the rest with drinks and bars. Uh, how will that work in the long term? How about exercise and general healthy eating habits?

In a way, having too much time on her hands is a big problem when trying to deal with stuff like this. I speak from personal experience. I do better when I'm busy as far as trying to make lasting changes. When I see Amber with so few responsibilities and taking a stab here and there at meal-replacement programs, leaving her hungry for a big part of the day when she has little else to focus her immediately attention on, I can't see it working well. (Meal replacement programs aren't bad in and of themselves; I know people who've gotten a helpful "boost" from those and then gone on to do quite well in weight loss.)

reply

I totally agree. It's pretty hard to look at someone who was at rock bottom, say they're doing better, and want to throw them a parade. It's great to want to encourage someone, but "Coming a long way" implies someone is doing well, and Amber is not.

reply