Passion
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i loveeedd it.
Jace Wayland = HOTNESS <3
I am so excited for the next book!
shareI thought Passion was so bad it was unintentionally hilarious. The time travel aspect was so ridiculous as to be insulting to the reader. I am shocked that anyone would give the third book more than one star.
Luce travelled through time and yet always looked pretty much the same - even in places like the ancient Mayan kingdom and Egypt. That was pretty convenient and absurd.
Even worse was the fact that the author made no attempt to consider what the life of a 17 year old girl would have been in any of those time periods. A 17 year old in most of the periods Luce visited was the equivalent of a middle aged woman today (assuming she hadn't already died in childbirth).
The author seemed to have done a lot of research on how the societies looked, but gave zero thought to how the societies functioned.
In addition (and this has been a problem since the first book, but was more glaring here), if Daniel really loved her as much as he's supposed to, why didn't he leave the poor girl alone? Yeah, I get that they always ended up in the same place, but he could have literally flown away when he saw her.
In general, I think books and movies are a matter of taste. But IMO, Passion is an objectively bad book, and it isn't a matter of taste. There is simply no way to overcome the really glaring weaknesses in it.
It's too bad because Fallen was good and at the end of the first book the series seemed to have so much potential. Torment wasn't nearly as good, and seemed to be following the Twilight trajectory of the second book separating the main characters for "her protection", but there were still interesting aspects in it.
if you paid attention to the book you would realize that she states in the book that luce didnt look exactly like her and the only reason luce knew which person she was, was because she could see her own soul. She never said that the past all looked like the present luce they had a little bit in common but she just knew because of her soul.
shareOkay, you might be right about that. I admittedly read quickly because I thought it was so dumb. However, your point doesn't address the fact that she didn't address the very important point about the role of a 17 year old girl/woman in different societies. This was crucial to the book's premise with Luce and Daniel meeting over and over.
shareI'm sorry but you are wrong. 17 did not equal middle age in any way in the past. It was at that age that girls would debut in society.
shareSorry, xx, but I'm not wrong. Perhaps you should try opening a history book. In the middle ages, the average lifespan was about 30/35. 17 was very much an adult woman. In the middle ages, 17 girls were generally married with children. Girls at 17 were not debuting in society (besides only royalty had debuts). They were already women. This was the case throughout the middle ages (starting after the fall of rome and continuing until probably the 1600/1700s).
In ancient Rome, Greece and Egypt, the lifespans were longer, but girls were still married quite young. It was not uncommon for a girl of 13 or 14 to be married to a much older man (who would be onto a second or third wife because the first ones died (often in childbirth)).
I believe the lifespans of the ancient Mayans were fairly short relative to Greece/Rome, and more along the lines of those in Europe in the middle ages. But girls were still married young.
It does say that in some of the parts she isn't as old. I thought that it said she died BEFORE she was eighteen, so usually sometime when she was seventeen, if not before. I remember in the third-ish chapter when she is in Italy the other one (was she called Lucia?) was only fourteen.
Maybe I am wrong but I thought that was what was going on.
And if I was wrong and she was always seventeen when she died, then though it was a little off, you are dragging out the truth a little. Fifteen to twenty would be around the age she was getting married. Thirteen and fourteen is young, even then, like being seventeen or eighteen now.
I thought the girl in Italy was older than the main Lucinda, but I could be wrong. Depending on the era, thirteen-fourteen was a pretty common marriage age - for the Mayan one and the other really ancient one (I'm blanking on the place), the girl would have been married by 13/14. For the more recent ones, like the war nurse, she would have been married by 17/18.
IMO, the time travel story presented a huge opportunity to look at how a girl's role in society has changed - at how back in the day girls were essentially property and didn't have educations or careers. But I think the author really let that opportunity go.
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Billyparker: sorry, but that's not true. Average people did NOT live to 65+ in the middle ages. Honestly, anyone who believes that is totally ignorant or hasn't yet finished 7th grade history. It's one or the other - you can pick what you are.
In Roman times, the average lifespan for ELITES was fairly long - about 55/60 years. But that was for elites, not plebs. And after the fall of Rome, the average lifespan declined rapidly (along with everything else).
Yeah, it's true that infant mortality was quite high in the middle ages. But so was the mortality rate for women in childbirth. So was the overall mortality rate. There were plagues, wars, famines, accidents that led to death by infection (and wouldn't now), and just a general difficult life.
The average lifespan was also quite short in the ancient Mayan civilization, another culture visited during Lucinda's time travel. A Mayan girl would have married quite young - in her early teens.
Again, I suggest you open a history book, because you clearly have not.
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