Ok, it upsets me that after 7 years he shows up but doesn't want to give any information!! We figure it's because of the cult, but common!! How many people searched for you and resources that went into finding you?? And you show up like nothing happened and doesn't want to talk about it. Ughhh frustrating. It's frustrating when you don't even find someone and have no answers but he does!!! Answer! Lol anyone else agree??
sharePeople do have a right to leave without telling anyone. It's not against the law.
As far as I remember he didn't just show up after 7 years. I think the police found him and he asked them not to tell his family where he was at. I think it's time for his family to accept that he won't be a part of their lives.
http://patch.com/new-jersey/triboro/missing-butler-man-timothy-carney-found-safely#.U-AC2o7D8v4
It says his family knows where he is. I understand that people have the right to leave, move, start a new life. But for those who loved you, cared about you and/or your case, should know SOMETHING give us some story. Did you run away from the church? Did the church tell you not to talk with your family? What!?
It says his family knows where he is.
http://patch.com/new-jersey/triboro/missing-butler-man-timothy-carney-found-safely#.U-AC2o7D8v4
made it clickable........when you do a post click on the 3rd word above the box it is the word Link and it is underlined look like this
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just take out that one space
Yes, but just because it's legal, doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. You keep people in anguish withholding answers like that.
shareWho is in anguish?
shareHis family- they are dying for answers as to his wearabouts and he has the answers. He's withholding their piece of mind, leaving them in anguish.
shareOnce again:
"Petruski said she and his family are not discouraged that they put forth effort to search for him for so many years. Instead, they are just glad he is safe.
"We'd rather have him alive and well than any other circumstances," she said. "The family is happy about that and I don't think they hold anything (against him) other than they're happy he's alive and they'll work from there."
It doesn't appear to me that his family is dying for answers. They're just happy he's alive.
Fair enough, but before they confirmed he was alive, through the bank transaction, they were a collective nervous wreck. And generally speaking, it's a really crappy thing to do to your loved ones.
Why defend his selfish actions? Wait a minute... are YOU actually Tim Carney???
Get real - you think Tim Carney is going to post on IMDb?
Okay - you say he's selfish and he was in a way, but people have the right to just get up and go without telling their family.
We have a difference of opinion - that's all. I have nothing more to say on the topic.
I think leaving his car in a ditch like it was driven off the road and clearing out his bank account while obviously trying to hide his face from the camera equates to more than just trying to leave to start a new life - its purposely trying to make the disappearance mysterious.
shareI'm pretty sure his car was not in a ditch, it was parked. And he has every right to go to his bank and get his own money out while wearing a hat. It's ridiculous that anyone other than his family members are mad at this guy for leaving his old life behind.
shareHe did not have the right to just have many man hours and police work done while looking for him, when all the while he was alive and well. he should have contacted the authorities sooner and said, I had to leave my family. I am alive but I don't want them to know my where-abouts. There was time and money wasted on this guy.
But inquiring minds do want to know "Why'd you leave?" we may never get that answer, but if you aren't curious then you aren't human lol
Actually he does have the right to go missing and then have people look for him using man hours. The right is that you can leave when you are an adult and you don't have to call and tell anyone, ever! This includes the police. Is it nice to do to your loved ones? No of course not but its your right. I am also curious of course and if he ever did an interview I would love to see it but I'm not mad that he left and still won't say what is up.
shareyou sound so stupid. "he has the right to go missing and have people look for him", that just sounds pure ignorant. What in hell would be the point in causing big scenes and spending alot of money? that isn't a RIGHT, it could be nonpunishable, but not a right.
shareWhat are you not understanding about the right to walk away from your life?? It's not his problem that people looked for him, he didn't make it look like he was taken and he didn't call the police to tell them to spend hours looking for him. Call me ignorant all you want but you don't seem to get that he has the RIGHT to walk away. Go ahead and jump back on the mad at Tim Carney bandwagon, even though no one knows what the heck his life is like.
shareI honestly do not care about this guy whatsoever, so I don't have any hate for him, I just dont care. My comment wasn't about Tim carney, it was about you and what you said. He can do what he wants, but it's not his RIGHT to have search parties and whatnot on his behalf, it would make more sense to say he had no control over the fact that people made those efforts, not that he has a right to.
shareI said he has the right to go missing and then because he has the right to go missing he then has the right to not care that people are searching for him. The fact that you are being pretty pedantic and acting as if I should have worded it differently is really your issue.
Definition for right
-a moral or legal entitlement to have or obtain something or to act in a certain way.
"she had every right to be angry"
He has a legal entitlement which you yourself said he had, and that is the same as saying he has a right to it. So I'm stoked we agree that he has a right to do what he wants. :)
I don't think you are trying to convey what you want here.
He doesn't have the "right to go missing" but he has the right to go where he pleases. No you don't need to tell people where you are going.
I agree, he ran away from his family. But cults DO happen. And it sounds like this church was just that.
I just think its REALLY selfish to up and leave. Knowing you're on the news. And if you are apart of a cult, and when the police are asking "if anyone has any information, please come forward" and no one does, its irresponsible. SOMEONE knew where he was (besides Tim himself).
All those investigators and man hours and money that goes into missing persons. Its sad how many just DISSAPEAR, and you just wonder and make assumptions. This guy purposely let his family in anguish.
No, I am saying he has the right to go missing, see himself and his story on the news and not call and say anything. I'm not saying that it's not selfish but it's something you can do. And I agree with you that people in that cult knew where he was and just didn't say anything.
shareI thought about his story for a few days after and what stands out is that he didn't run away from the church people so much as run away from his family. I am of the belief the church people may have convinced him to get away from his family for reasons not made public. They may not be the nice people they pretend. When people make a break from their family or have issues like Timothy Carney it's because something is wrong in that family. The bible thumpers may not be a cult at all, they might just be normal people who have been portrayed as sketchy by people looking for someone to blame. Or maybe they are a cult, Timothy realized that, and decided to get away from 2 toxic influences in his life.
|Statistics show that 100% of people bitten by a snake were close to it.|
You have no way of knowing if his family is bad or not. To act like it proves it because a man in a cult left his family and still won't talk to them is ridiculous logic or lack of any logic at all.
shareYou have no way of knowing if the group was a cult or not. To act like it proves it because a man left his family and still won't talk to them is ridiculous logic or lack of any logic at all. /sarcasm
What I know is he left his family and still won't talk to them. People from good families don't run away, and don't run away to cults either.
|Statistics show that 100% of people bitten by a snake were close to it.|
That is absolutey not a fact! Have you ever heard of mental illness or just curiosity? Both of those things could easliy get you involved in a cult. And yeah we know its a cult because we have common sense. I can't believe someone could be so naive to think that only people in bad" families can get into a cult. Must make you feel safe and so you choose to believe that it only happens to others.
sharelots of people get sucked into cults....it's what they do, they use tactics to influence brainwash people
shareI would like to know what Tim Carney did when he was missing. I reside close to where he did and vaguely remember his disappearance. I think the Gospel Outreach cult moved from Pompton Plains to Wantage, NJ.
There was a minor mistake that ticked me off. The Lyndhurst Diner is not on Route 23. It isn't even close. I know it is a minor detail, but made me wonder what other inaccuracies there were.