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Whether you liked it or not...


...how can you deny the first processing scene as a perfect piece of filmmaking? That ten minutes alone is worth watching the entire film.

It's okay with me.

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Agreed! It was absolutely captivating. Also, the final scene between Phoenix and Hoffman was so powerful. The film is a tough watch but there's a lot of stuff going on under the surface. I find myself thinkng about certain scenes every so often. Personally, I think it's a masterpiece.

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We saw plenty about their methods and objectives.



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That scene was excellent. But I have to admit I found the entire film mesmerizing.



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This movie is indeed a masterpiece of film-making, no doubt. But it is also one of the most utterly depressing and saddest stories I have ever seen.

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I don't think the ending was supposed to be sad. The scene with the woman he met at the bar indicated he met someone with whom he could be honest and relaxed. Anyway that is how I choose to see it. He was going to be happier than he was previously.

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Maybe the ending was the exception, but not by much. Freddie must have been so unhappy and miserable with his life, being happier than before would still equate to utter misery for a normal human being.

And the stuff he drank and concocted. He was a living advertisement for Prohibition. Even though a movie, I almost became nauseous just watching what he all mixed up and drank. Talk about being self destructive ... I also wonder how much all that junk he drank affected him physically - he slurred his speech, his mouth was permanently in a half sneer, he couldn't walk straight up and seemed physically and mentally challenged in many aspects. What a mess of a person.

Wonderful acting of course.

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I also wonder how much all that junk he drank affected him physically - he slurred his speech, his mouth was permanently in a half sneer, he couldn't walk straight up and seemed physically and mentally challenged in many aspects. What a mess of a person.


This is the one area, I think the actor and director went too far on. The man obviously does look like 50 miles of bad road and yet he gets all these beautiful women into bed with him. It just strains belief. Especially when we are shown he can barely hold a conversation. So no looks and no conversation skills, but beautiful women knocking on his door. Right....NOT.

I've read some people theorized that we aren't seeing Freddie as he looks in reality. We are seeing the person inside him. So on the inside he is twisted and broken but the outside looks very normal.

The one thing that makes the end a bit more hopeful for me is that Freddie is no longer pining for his lost love. He has come to terms with that past. So it makes his interactions with women, more relaxed...he isn't holding out for a dream and keeping himself apart.

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and yet he gets all these beautiful women into bed with him. It just strains belief. Especially when we are shown he can barely hold a conversation. So no looks and no conversation skills, but beautiful women knocking on his door. Right....NOT

That's the effect of his 'animal magnetism.'
Also, consider that most guys never get a shot at certain beautiful women simply because the guys assume the women are out of their league, so they never even make an honest attempt to seduce them. It hardly needs saying that Freddie suffered from no such inhibitions. lol

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I watched the movie, thought about it for a day, then went back to that exact scene. It's such a captivating scene with two phenomenal actors.

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