Weird writing choices and plotholes! - Rizzoli & Isles (2010) Discussion

[–] alix2468ks 9 years ago

And why is Maura still allowed to work with a traumatic brain injury?

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[–] pgooden 9 years ago

I have a feeling that this will develop into her having to leave as ME as in the end of the season .

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[–] ScrystaLz 9 years ago

or she eventually fully recovers...most concussions are not too serious and small memory losses are usually only temporary, in most cases, people who have suffered concussions and small memory losses eventually fully recover.

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[–] ScrystaLz 9 years ago

it most cases, concussions are not very serious and small minor memory losses are expected, but they usually are only temporary...most people who have suffered concussions and minor memory losses eventually fully recover.

Although Maura is suffering some minor memory loss, but that does not seem to affect her overall abilities to do her job, she still seems to do her job right and competently and that's what matters, she merely just forgets certain random words occasionally, but it's not affecting her overall abilities.

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[–] cosmic_surveyor 9 years ago

Although Maura is suffering some minor memory loss, but that does not seem to affect her overall abilities to do her job, she still seems to do her job right and competently and that's what matters, she merely just forgets certain random words occasionally, but it's not affecting her overall abilities.

Then you're not grasping what is at stake.

Without Maura's assistant double-checking her work for possible mistakes, her signed official documents would be subjected to more than the usual questions. Her competency in her work that fills those documents would be questioned, thereby freeing the guilty in what would be open-and-shut cases.

If Maura's assistant were ambitious and gunning for her job, he has enough facts to support a declaration of incompetency and a liability to the office she holds.

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[–] ScrystaLz 9 years ago

But Maura's assistant IS double-checking her work, Maura always had an assistant on hand to double-check in case there's mistakes, it's not like she started getting an assistant after she had her concussion, she's always had one. And it's not affecting Maura's overall abilities, I mean, you can still see in recent episodes that she still gets the job done right, she's still able to do forensics correctly and getting the desired and correct results. She merely just forgets certain random words at times or forgets to spell certain words correctly, but she should not be fired just for that, she's still able to do forensics correctly and competently and is still able to perform autopsies, hence it's not affecting her overall work.
Unless Maura's condition worsens and she continues to make more serious mistakes, that's when I think she should be removed from her position as head ME...but right now, her condition does not seem that serious and are not significant. As long as she is still able to do her job, perform autopsies and forensics correctly without any mistakes (which she is still competent at doing), then I see no reason for her to get dismissed.

Sometimes in reality, even completely healthy medical examiners make grave mistakes when doing their job and are not fired for their mistakes, sometimes even experienced professionals can still make mistakes at their jobs in reality, but they usually don't get fired for it. So why should Maura be dismissed from her job when she is still competent at doing her job correctly?

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[–] SarahKSeraSera 9 years ago

On one of those points, all Alice's people backed her up and discredited Jane.

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[–] Taylorfirst1 9 years ago

How about this one? A girl walks up to Jane and hands her a note from Alice and says "Alice says hello". Jane tears up the note and throws it on the ground and tells the girl to tell "Alice to go to hell".

First that note is evidence, it may have had a clue to her whereabouts. But second, why did they not even ask the girl where she got the note? Where is Alice? You are under arrest for harboring a fugitive and abstructing justice! None of that at all?

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[–] alix2468ks 9 years ago

Oh yes! That too! The loyalty from these teenagers has not been explained! Like I know she like helped one kid through school last season, don't remember the details but who are these random kids. I get they are her drug runners but why are they still loyal?

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[–] ctown28 9 years ago

I had no problem with the fact that they used the other kids discrediting Jane's story as a way to get Alice out of jail, but one thing that bothered me is the fact that Alice is an ex-con. When she is finally captured, she is in possession of a high powered rifle. Now they made it a point to state that the ballistics don't match the rifle that shot Nina, but just the fact that Alice is an excon in possession of an illegal firearm (Ex-cons cannot legally own a gun) and is probably still on parole, should have been more than enough to hold her.

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[–] katydidmo 9 years ago

A felon in possession of a gun, even a legal one, is a federal crime. So ridiculous that the judge doesn't find probable cause to hold Alice just for that. And the "affidavits" from the other kids at the tunnel scene? Even more ludicrous that they would not be required to testify in person. A judge would never accept even a notarized statement in place of live testimony so the prosecutor could cross-examine them. Not appearing in person renders the statements inadmissible, leaving only Jane's testimony. And testimony is a form of evidence, especially eyewitness testimony.

I really hate that the writers can't even be bothered to get it right. Any 1st year law student would know these, so don't they have a legal adviser????

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[–] sprtslvr1 9 years ago

Angela only told Ron that was the reason. The real reason was that she was doing it to protect his family based on the conversation she had with his daughter.

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[–] alix2468ks 9 years ago

But as other threads on here have discussed, why would the daughter feel like it was Angela's fault? So stupid.

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[–] sprtslvr1 9 years ago

Worst mistake I noticed was that the priest called Jane by her name at the end. How would he know who she was?

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[–] SarahKSeraSera 9 years ago

Jane has a few friends that are priests. She grew up there and hung with a few guys. Remind do me of Crossing Jordan where Jordans first crush grew up to be a priest and sometimes she would go to confess and confess to having deep feelings for her priest and he'd say Jordan, is that you.

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[–] suza271 9 years ago

Actually, that's the ONLY question I've read that can easily be explained.

First he mentioned he saw her on the news and second it seemed like that may have been a place of worship for her family. Not that big of a stretch.

The entire Alice story could've been good (or they could've come up with ANY multiple episode investigation better). Instead it was almost comical. Drat! Fooled again by Alice. The reason for the entire plotline was SO random. Then, at some point, either Jane or Alice mentioned it really didn't have anything to do with the police academy! LOL!

And, yes, Maura totally compromised the entire investigation. In fact, I thought the saga was going to continue because SHE'S the one that found the fingerprint in the car (and supervised all of the collection). Even after Alice was shot I thought we'd have to endure an IA investigation against Jane.

Generally.... In the final season of a show there's a multiple episode story that weaves it's way to the very last episode. Is this the best they're going to do?

Are the rest of the episodes just one and done mysteries?

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[–] labamagal 9 years ago

OMG yes y'all! ALL OF THE ABOVE!!! I looked at the note on the ground and was like "why didn't Korsak pick it up?" Yeah Jane was angry and he knew that so HE should be the one to make the same decisions. And then they believed some street kids over a cop? And if they didn't want the mom dating Ron any more, at least have them sit down like ADULTS. She broke up with him like she was in high school. Adults EXPLAIN their feelings. And Ron's daughter was never around (that I recall) and all of a sudden she shows up one episode and then Angela decides to end it because Ron's daughter was scared? Hell, the same thing could have happened to him at a bank or a gas station!

And yes, Maura's butt needed to be at home in the doggone bed not using trying to solve important cases!

And this Alice Sands story was WEAK from the very beginning! Sooooo many plot holes! Ugh! This chick was jealous of Jane from 15-20 years ago? There's got to be something else.

And goofy Frankie's first really case as lead detective and he chooses to lie to the parents about their daughter's suicide to spare them? Just dumb.

None of these story lines make sense and this is how they want the last season to end?

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[–] nerdygirl111 9 years ago

Exactly! It could have happened to Ron anywhere. I didn't understand his daughter's point.

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[–] cosmic_surveyor 9 years ago

She broke up with him like she was in high school.

We learned, in hindsight, Angela skipped quite a few phases in her development; no hs graduation, no college ... straight to Mother and Married Life 101. And despite a Catholic upbringing, she never really used a priest to help guide her through life's mazes. So she certainly wouldn't start using her children as advisors.

As for Ron's daughter, she might just be powerless and helpless in quieting her children's fears. She only had two avenues to pursue: her father and Angela. The latter proved to be successful.

This chick was jealous of Jane from 15-20 years ago? There's got to be something else.

As it turned out, Alice's stint in the joint gave herself too much time to think, regret and obsess over what might have been if not for ... you-know-who.

And goofy Frankie's first really case as lead detective and he chooses to lie to the parents about their daughter's suicide to spare them? Just dumb.

I saw the parents were devastated by his truth their unrealistic expectations drove her. What was his lie?

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[–] labamagal 9 years ago

Remember when the parents admitted that the daughter put all of the pressure on herself. It didn't come from them; they actually encouraged
her to slow down, come home and take a few community college classes. Well, once Frankie realized that, he chose to say it was all just an unfortunate accident instead of telling them she commited suicide. I guess he was trying to spare
their feelings.

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[–] cosmic_surveyor 9 years ago

Thanks! I must have blinked and missed that.

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[–] ohsparkly 9 years ago

Don't forget not mention of Tommy or Tommy Jr. Angela was so happy to be a grandma.

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[–] cameronc-865-261299 9 years ago

Definitely

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