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Questions/Issues (spoilers)

posted 10 years ago by ToonsNTeases
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It was implied that Angela may not even be Roger's biological daughter; her mother (the prostitute) may have been impregnated by a demon, or some sort of "immaculate conception" occurred.

1. Does this mean that Angela was NEVER anything other than the Antichrist playing tricks on everyone? In that case, why put on this whole show of a "transformation/possession?" Why not simply act like the innocent miracle-worker and start "taking control" of people that way?

2. At the end, the news clips show that some people are questioning her as a "heretic," but there is NO mention of the fact that there is FOOTAGE showing that she almost drowned a baby, apparently convinced a man to kill himself, moved her bed, and whispered through a wall to make patients attack each other and themselves. Are we to believe that the mental hospital wouldn't send those security tapes to the press/police after she became so popular and revered?

3. This is more of a general question for those who believe the Bible to be true. WHY in the world would Satan follow the "script" and do exactly what every Christian is already waiting for Satan to do? Can't we assume that Satan is aware of the existence of the Bible and its contents? If I'm the Antichrist, I'm thinking "Hmm, they're expecting a false Jesus to appear and convince the world to follow him/her, and then they're expecting the real Jesus to come back. So I'll simply send a decoy to be the "fake" Jesus, and then I'll appear after a few years claiming to be Jesus, and everyone who follows the Bible will believe me. How does the Book of Revelations even make sense when it basically reveals Satan's gameplan?

[–] msamoylov 10 years ago

Does this mean that Angela was NEVER anything other than the Antichrist playing tricks on everyone?

We see Angela having a blog with demon symbols at the beginning so she clearly had some kind of connection to all this before in her life. But the movie never says that her mother had a demon in her. And we hear from the priest at the end 'stop hiding in that young girls body'. Also her boyfriend seemed surprised after she showed all those signs. So the demon might chose her for a reason, but she as a person before was completely normal.

Why not simply act like the innocent miracle-worker and start "taking control" of people that way?

Well she does at the end. After she blew up the house she goes and does wonders. At the TV Show interview for example she acts normal even though we know she is the Antichrist at that point already.

At the end, the news clips show that some people are questioning her as a "heretic," but there is NO mention of the fact that there is FOOTAGE showing that she almost drowned a baby, apparently convinced a man to kill himself, moved her bed, and whispered through a wall to make patients attack each other and themselves. Are we to believe that the mental hospital wouldn't send those security tapes to the press/police after she became so popular and revered?

Since she looked so 'clean' I think people and the police assumed she was healed. Also the hospitals never blamed her for any of the damage that she caused.

This is more of a general question for those who believe the Bible to be true. WHY in the world would Satan follow the "script" and do exactly what every Christian is already waiting for Satan to do?

Don't take that seriously. The filmmakers always say that this is meant to be scary fiction and not some Bible propaganda. For the plot itself, you see, the idea is that only the ones who will not worship the false idol and only the ones who believe in the signs, will find redemption. However, I don't see how that makes sense since Jesus would also be a false idol compared to the Old Testament. Whatever, like I said, those movies are meant to entertain and to scare, not to make you Bible-lovers.

[–] ToonsNTeases 10 years ago

Thanks for the reply. I know she went on to do miracles after the failed "exorcism," but what I was referring to was: why do any of that in the first place? How did it in any way help the antichrist's mission to blow up the house, make birds appear and convince people to stab themselves in the eyes, etc.? If your plan is to deceive the world until you have them eating out of the palm of your hand, why would you show them ANY signs that you're evil, let alone on camera? What I asked was why she didn't just do the miracle work from the start.

Also, I'm not sure you understood my point about the devil in the Bible. I wasn't referring to this movie...I'm well aware this movie is made primarily for entertainment. As I said, it was a separate question I had for people who believe the book of Revelations in real life.

Thanks again for your reply!

[–] msamoylov 10 years ago

why do any of that in the first place?

It looks cool I guess. The devil didn't get full control of Angela's body until after the 'exorcism'. Imagine the demon is like cancer. First it battles with the body and then it takes over. Maybe she also showed the signs so the church would do the exorcism so she could blow up because of the exorcism and get full control of her body afterwards.