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My Thoughts on the Finale (spoilers)

posted 9 years ago by itsmypot21
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While I'm still pissed at Syfy for canceling it in the first place, having an actual ending is better than not. Most shows don't get to do this, so for that I am thankful. Of course it could have been better, but on the flip side, it could have been way way worse. So I'm good with how it went down.
I've seen what others have said about having Dave and Duke in the barn as the "love". I agree that this would have been much better and allowed Audrey to go back as Audrey.
I think that in time Paige will remember being Audrey, just like when she was Lexi or when she was Mara. Maybe something happens with James where he needs a bone marrow donation and 'poof' Nathan happens to be a match. Now Paige is curious and orders a dna test, and 'poof' again! Nathan is James's father! And this floods all the Audrey/Lucy/Sara memories back into her.
I know that sounds dumb, but whatever, I think she remembers being Audrey at some point.

I am surprised that Dave didn't make an appearance in the finale, that was unfortunate.

Why was Duke a ghost that only Dwight could see? And why did he speak to Dwight telepathically? And for that matter, what was the point of Duke's death? How would it have ended differently had Duke lived and Croatoan taken all the troubles?
Croatoan made a choice to turn from bad to good for his daughter. It wouldn't have mattered if he had all the troubles or none of them. It was his choice, and the only way any of it ended. Nathan and Audrey couldn't keep him in the barn any other way. So really, Duke's death served no purpose. The only purpose I can think of, is that he got to be a ghost and show Dwight how to keep his daughter alive, which was odd in itself because Duke and Dwight weren't even close.

In the end, we got a happy ending, so...yay! Better than we got for Dominion! #FUsyfy

[–] SBL84 9 years ago

Croatoan made a choice to turn from bad to good for his daughter. It wouldn't have mattered if he had all the troubles or none of them. It was his choice, and the only way any of it ended. Nathan and Audrey couldn't keep him in the barn any other way. So really, Duke's death served no purpose.

It wouldn't have changed anything, but the characters didn't know that, and Duke was feeling remorse for the lives he took while under Croatoan's control, and even the lives he took before that for other reasons when trying to fight the Troubles.

At the moment, Duke was a ticking time-bomb who could have either been controlled by Croatoan again, or have all of his troubles taken from him for personal destructive use by Croatoan himself. The aether core had also been destroyed, and they had no plan to fix things. So they had no idea how many other people Croatoan may have killed to accomplish his goal.

So even though Duke's death/survival had no impact on the eventual outcome, it made sense why it happened, both from Duke's personal issues with his family's Trouble and in an attempt to continue protecting the town.

In the end, we got a happy ending, so...yay!

Yeah. And I liked the cameos at the end when the Troubles were being taken away.

Brody getting slapped, and smiling. Marion from the first episode. The Glendowers FINALLY coming back in from the ocean, who I've always assumed had been stuck in merman form ever since their episode since the Troubles never went away.

[–] naiza11 9 years ago

Duke's death is not for nothing. He died a hero saving his friends and his town (at least to his friends and they knew why he did it, that's all that matters). Anyone who said otherwise obviously didn't know him well.

[–] !!!deleted!!! (62673455) 9 years ago

I agree. Duke did die a hero and depending on what way you look at it Duke has a happy ending in a way because now he can be with Jennifer again along with all the friends he has lost in the afterlife. It was pretty obvious he was going to be killed off but I was happy they had him get control back over himself before he did.

[–] campbe33 9 years ago

What I didn't really like about all this croatoan stuff is all those people dying Dave, Duke, Charlotte, etc. for what really turned out to be for no real reason in the end.

[–] Insomniatic102 9 years ago

Yeah, I was thinking somewhere along those lines too. I'm not sure Duke dying did any good at all.

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[–] Dream_Demon 9 years ago

I agree with you about Duke's death being useless in the end. Also, I wish that Vince wasn't so chummy with Croatoan at the end after a few months in the Barn. Even though Croatoan did reform, he did kill his Vince's brother Dave after all. Also, I wished we could see more of what happened to William after Nathan left him and the people he went back to. That would've been satisfying.

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[–] campbe33 9 years ago

Yeah Dukes death was the most pointless death of them all. It would have been a better ending if Vince still made the sacrifice to become the controller and instead of Audrey having to stay in the barn because the barn needed love to stay together if Dave made the sacrifice and provided the love by wanting to stay with his brother Vince in the barn. Vince being chummy with the man who killed a fourth of the town off including his brother for really no reason just didn't seem right or even plausible given Vince's character and dedication to Dave. Another thing that bothers me is why would Audrey's mother suggest rebuilding the barn to hold croatoan if Audrey would have had to stay in the barn too and also that croatoan said he had to be willing to stay in barn for it to hold him, if that was the case how could it have held Mara when she surely wasn't willing?

[–] feenix219 9 years ago

Like Duke, wasn't Shatner infected by the creature in the void? Audrey not only talked Duke out of its influenced, but she saved her father from its influence, as well. In my head canon, anyways, the Shatner we saw at the end with Vince was not the full on Croatan monster we had been scared of all season, but just the true remnant of her real father.

Maybe.

[–] talkinturtles 8 years ago

her father WAS the creature. she didn't save her father from coatoan. he was the croatoan.

[–] lord_jeanquev 9 years ago

The only explanation that makes sense for Vince is that by becoming part of the barn he is no longer human. That includes no longer having human feelings and thus would not be angry or vengeful.

Another thing that bothers me is why would Audrey's mother suggest rebuilding the barn to hold croatoan if Audrey would have had to stay in the barn too and also that croatoan said he had to be willing to stay in barn for it to hold him, if that was the case how could it have held Mara when she surely wasn't willing?

It could be that had the core remained whole that Audrey would not need to go into the barn. It could also be that she (Charlotte) planned to go into the barn to be the catalyst.

As for holding Croatoan they were using him as the power source he had to volunteer to be the power source not he had to volunteer to go in (at least I think that is how it played out).

[–] Boni-The-Sock 9 years ago

It's not clear if William decided to go back to his world. Remember that Nathan said that the people there won't be happy to see him, and without Mara, he doesn't really have anything to live for in that world. In my opinion, he decided to stay in the void, lonely, until the end of his days.

As for the ending, I also had trouble swallowing that Vince and Croatoan became Barn Buddies after the guy murdered a lot of Vince's friends, including his own brother. But I liked that they adressed the old troubled and tried to solve all the loose ends, like Duke seeing the tatoo before dying.

As for Nathan, I was very glad that he was FINALLY able to let Audrey go. It redeemed the character in my eyes. I was tired of he jeopardizing everything so Audrey could remain at his side.

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[–] Kent615 9 years ago

I'm pissed also that the show was canceled

[–] bbnj62 9 years ago

If Duke doesn't die the whole chain of events that leads to Croatoan and Audrey's scene in the armory probably never happens. He sends Nathan away bend because her killed Duke. Without all those troubles he needs Audrey to make more right away.

[–] talkinturtles 8 years ago

i agree, i like that she was able to come back, but very disappointed it wasn't as audrey. hopefully she will remember everything in time, because that would really suck that she doesn't have all those memories of her and nathan together. really hate that they killed duke and so many others. i kind of hoped that since the deaths were because of the troubles, maybe some of them wouldn't be dead anymore. it's not haven without duke!