It's unbelievable how many times she gets smacked up right in the head and she fights on like there's nothing happening. Men even "stand a chance" at some point during a fight.
Chaning Tatum in the opening fight is sitting on top of her, beating the crap out of her (head) and she simply gets up and kicks his but dead like as if nothing happened.
LOL.
I don't have a problem with her taking the shots. I mean when the adrenaline is pumping the human body can deal with alot of punishment.
But I REALLY didn't like the fact that afterwards she would barely have a mark on her to show for it. I mean this film is trying to be realistic and it has a R rating so what was the excuse for that. The studios didn't wanna mark up her pretty face?
That's a point there, mate. No bruises, no any kind of damage whatsoever. :D
During the scene, where she's beating Michael Fassbender, I can't help myself by not getting a feeling that being beaten by a woman is actually quite cool.
Fassbender's acting is really nice in that hotel room fight scene: "Come on, everybody, she's beating the crap out of me and it's totally awsome getting messed up and kicked arround by such a beauty!"
When she clinches his neck, theres this expression on his face: "That's one cool way to die. Not everyone gets a chance like that!"
Michael probably signed up for this movie just to get to do that fight scene with her. I sure as hell would have.
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No bruises, no any kind of damage whatsoever...Sorry but that's crap! Have a look at her face in the latter half of the movie in particular and you'll see that she's got bruises on her face.
If she has marks all over her face from the hotel fight, she had them for the diner fight. Soderbergh is way to anal about details to let that go.
shareAnd this is different from male action stars, how?
shareI agree. It's a staple that male and female action stars only get little cuts on the corner of their brow or lip, and a couple red marks on the cheek. NO swelling the next day or black eyes.
I have no problem with that. But she took some HEAVY blows to the face while on her back that didn't even seem to make her the slightest bit woozy. If any person her size, female OR male, took those shots, he or she would be seeing stars or unconscious.
I would have liked to see her slip or block those shots. Just absorbing them without any effect is Buffy or Supergirl territory.
I would have liked to see her slip or block those shots.If you have the DVD Paul, go back and look at those fights. You'll see her use more blocking techniques than you normally see in martial arts movies. And you're complaining about her not blocking?
But she took some HEAVY blows to the face...And I agree with you. But doesn't that happen in all action movies. Do you post up on those sites complaining of a lack of realism? I bet not. I reckon it's a case of a female heroine, being seen as not as good as males, even though in the movie she is backgrounded as a highly trained and motivated black ops agent with a marine background (I think). share
That's not fair. I mentioned that a staple of action movies is that the stars, when taking punches or kicks to the face, usually get small nicks or cuts to the eyebrow or corner of the mouth, but Carano didn't even muss her lipstick. Now if she was playing Wonder Woman, I would have no problem with that, but she's playing a human.
And YES, I also complain when male stars take kicks and punches to the face with no visible damage.
I'm not saying that Haywire had ridiculous fighting sequences, IMO it had some of the more realistic ones. My complaint was that this film was touted as showcasing MMA fighting styles, and starred an MMA champion, and so I feel the bar was raised on the combat believability. I'm not expecting a dull 5 minutes of ground grappling and failed submission attempts, but my contention was that if they intended to have Carano survive every fight without the slightest mark on her face, it would have been far more realistic to have her slip or block more of the blows, than simply to have her absorb them like Wonder Woman or Wolverine would.
Her taking full-strength punches to the chin by trained 200lb men, without any visible effect, just made the film a little too comic-book silly IMO, when I think they were going for a more realistic vibe.
I know it's a fantasy movie, and I wouldn't be complaining, except for the fact that they could very easily had her character avoid most of those really heavy blows, instead of just having them bounce off her chin. IMO this would have made the film more "realistic" and therefore more exciting and enjoyable. I just can't get very invested in the protagonist's safety when it quickly becomes apparent she's Charlie's Angels "invulnerable".
...but Carano didn't even muss her lipstick.
...if they intended to have Carano survive every fight without the slightest mark on her face, it would have been far more realistic to have her slip or block more of the blows...,
like Wonder Woman or Wolverine would.
...this film was touted as showcasing MMA fighting styles...I never saw any publicity to that effect apart from the fact that it starred an actor with her background.
And YES, I also complain when male stars take kicks and punches to the face with no visible damageThere must be thousands of your posts littered around the boards then. I look forward to seeing them. share
I'm sorry about whether you think it's fair or not, but the comparison you draw between Haywire and Charlie's Angels, where we have actors flying through the air, ninja style, is absolutely ludicrous and destroys any credibility in your argument.
I wasn't comparing the ninja acrobatics of the films, just the "apparent invulnerability" of their protagonists.
Pretty quick to "destroy all my credibility", aren't you?
Hey, Charlie's Angels had THREE protagonists! There's another COMPLETE destruction of my credibility! Where do I get off comparing those films. They are not at ALL identical in every respect! lol
I can see how have a lot invested in this movie, so I take it all back. Haywire is a flawless film, and it was just personal rancor and my own insecurities that led me to cast dispersions on this peerless film. And Gina Carano should win an academy award for her acting.
And when a man fight with a man in a Hollywood film everything is so realistic!
Your problem is that Gina's a girl?
No, his problem is that Mallory Kane is a replicant.
shareNo he's being realistic. I fight and man, if I took that much punches to the head i'd be black and blue. Now that's realistic, doesn't matter if your male or female. I agree, she's a replicant.
share"Sh!t." (First line in the movie as spoken by Mallory.)
I wish they had shown her using ice packs or even snow to lessen the swelling and bruising.
When the body has an injury it tends to over react, cold will lessen all external trauma effects.
They did show her using masking makeup in the film and she had some facial bruising. So all in all it was considered by the director.
I still liked the movie and Gina Joy Carano's acting.
Now I just wonder how Rowdy Ronda Rousey would be in an action movie such as this one? Ronda's not quite the puncher GJC is but she is an expert in judo throws and RRR is lightning fast, even in her speaking.
"Sh!t." (Last line in the movie as spoken by Rodrigo.)
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You should watch the scene again. She uses her arms to block the punches by putting her arms in a cross over her face.
Wow that's really observant of you.
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