No sex, nudity, but all the violence.
kinda bummed ..
sharewhat violence?most of it is offscreen!this was garbage!
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MovieChat Forums > Halloween (2018) Discussion > No sex, nudity, but all the violence.
What violence they say... oooh, that edge!
No sex or nudity... man, bros feel your disappointment. I know to many of the unimpressed crowd that’s having a blast, uh, blasting this film, naked bodies would have made this a film worth watching. Damn you big bad PC! And screw substance!
As I see this adding nothing to the film, it isn’t an issue for me whatsoever. Atypcial for a slasher/Halloween film? Yup, and it’s cool. On that note, despite what the aforementioned unimpressed crowd is saying.... various reasons why they’re criticizing the film—ranging from fair to utterly ludicrous reasons, e.g. “metoo movement is killing us and anything modern sucks!”... this was a top-notch film. Significantly better acted, directed, written and scored than most, if not all of the sequels.
How was it a good film?
shareI have not seen it, but likely due to Curtis: her performance; plot-line; the female empowerment; she evokes, and fast-pace/ good direction. What are he critics saying?
shareI have seen it. It's a profound disappointment. A woman knowing how to handle a shotgun is not enough to support an entire film. Frankly, they don't go into nearly as much detail about Laurie Strode' PTSD, which is something critics promised. And, as I stated on a previous thread, this movie has little in common with the original Halloween. Since the beginning of production on this film, we were promised a return to the style of the original. The original was subtle and relied on unbearable suspense to scare the audience. This movie has none of that going on. I truly wish I could say better things about it, but it is such an affront to fans of the original film that I feel it's my duty to warn off those who are expecting better. The gore alone makes it just another masochistic blood bath for the masses.
shareSo, it sounds like it's not the character study that Curtis implies to a degree.
I agree that a woman handling a shotgun is not enough, only that Curtis made a rebuttal on Twitter (or other media) after she was accused of being a hypocrite for using guns in her films; she quotes that she told the producers to not have Strode with an arsenal of ammunition in her home, but just a couple of guns locked away from her daughters and instructs them on safe gun-use.
I was unaware of all that. I don't blame her character for having a collection of guns. I just don't think the movie is anything close to what we were told it was going to be.
shareThe criticism was in a magazine article or on the news, or something. She was saying that it was nonsense, since she's not completely against gun-control, but happens to work in this film-genre..
shareI see. Common thing actors have to deal with. It would be nice if professional and personal lives were kept separate.
shareLol. Top notch?
shareMore like common things actors make us have to deal with. There would be no problem if actors didnt tell us how to live while glorifing the exact opposite on the Big Screen
share"HERE, HERE!!"
shareThey tell you how to live, huh? They show up at your doorstep, demand you to listen to them and pay for their films... yeah, cuZ it’s not like you just can’t ignore the things they say and set you off. They’re hypocrites because they PORTRAY CHARACTERS that do things the actors themselves don’t approve of, right? Alright. Well, somebody better tell Anthony Hopkins how wrong it is that he’s not actually in favor of the consumption of human flesh.
But you are free to tell them where they should stand if they don’t share your beliefs, right? And the several actors that think similarly to you are free to spout whatever they want. Ugh, I know the argument you’re putting up is completely asinine so why even bother. I know this... for as rich and influential as actors are, what they say ultimately doesn’t compare to the power law makers, world leaders, and state propaganda tv has. Catch my drift?
While most actors are simply speaking truth to power, certain world leaders are attacking the press and anyone questioning their actions to the point where deranged followers of said world leaders decide to take action and actually harm those they see as a threat. Fake news? Cry me a river. If moronic and hateful reality show hosts can become the most powerful leaders in the world, then actors, like any citizen in a “free” world, have the right to take a stand and speak up for whatever causes they feel passionate about. And they shouldn’t apologize to their real hypocritical critics.
Is Curtis telling us how to live? So, because Curtis uses a shotgun in a horror/slasher film, that's not "glorifying" or endorsing guns. Does this mean every audience member who goes to Halloween, or other violent film, must be pro-guns? If not, then those audience members are hypocrites also. You're not supposed to take a movie like this so seriously.
shareLeave the politics out and enjoy the film
It just wants to scare you and have a good time
That’s all
This film is densely crammed with ideology. It is, to be sure, rife with politics and subtext, and I even think that these are its raison d'etre, outside of the obvious franchise anniversary cash-in angle. (Anyone else have this thought? For me the way this flick's ideological content fits into our current world seems very clear and not at all subtle.)
I'm thinking that the only way to get outside of being influenced by that layer of content is to actively identify it and analyze it. You can determine what the boundaries of the "lens" that you're willing to look at a movie through are, but everything outside of those edges becomes, to a greater or lesser extent, unconscious ideological programming. People who are looking at the film as nothing more than a fun scary ride are the ones who it is successfully programming.
Programming for what? Another sequel wirh badass women?
shareIn a nutshell: there's a level on which all films are "propaganda" of sorts.
In a film like this, which hinges on the concept of inherent "evil", and depicts a concerted retaliation against it, every aspect of how that evil is portrayed, and what factors constitute virtue by contrast, and the forces of human nature that prove to be effective against the evil, contain some implicit ideological information.
For instance, there are strong implications in this movie about what constitutes strength and bravery, what a strong woman looks like, and on and on, and on that front it can't be ignored that perpetuation of violence and traditionally hypermasculine tropes are associated positively with as much. The subject of this thread, the fact that violence is played up while the common tropes of slasher nudity and sexuality are downplayed/foregone itself contains decisive programming. There are many other forms of ideology here. The audience will be willing to accept these ideas as valid on a sub-conscious level so long as the emotional impact of the film successfully delivers (ie they're invested in the fun, scary ride that serves as sort of a trojan horse for the ideologies,) and the ideas and views will go on to shape their thinking and behavior in the future, which is what I mean by programming. Reproduction of ideology.
It's one of the things that makes films so effective in shaping culture. One of the major currents moving through films today of course involves the current shift in perception about abusers and the historically systematically disadvantaged and oppressed, and I think if someone wants to maintain a sort of birds-eye-view of how culture is currently being shaped by the media we consume, they'll want to analyze how movies and so on are using and politicizing, overtly and subtextually, those issues.
For instance, notice how this film is "pacing and leading", and how many films are "pacing" the zeitgeist's prevailing ideologies, and then applying layers of interpretation and angling them further in every decision they make.
Like the great man and Wheel of Fortune Host was quoted as saying "Nobody abhors violence more than Hollywood, and nobody does more to glorify it"
Hollywood are the biggest fucking hypocrits the world has ever seen on a grand scale and if you deny that you are nothing but a brainless Mark
The internet is for that
shareits 2018, not fit for current climate
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