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Anyone realize the movie/ book this based on a complete liar


Richard Kuklinski is the biggest liar in recent history looking for fame by confessing to a ton of murders he didn't commit. (Actually, the only other contender for Kuklinski's hall-of-fame fibbing who probably comes close to snatching Kuklinski's title of America's Top Liar was Henry Lee Lucas, who falsely confessed to nearly 200 murders back in the early 1980s.)

Sure, Kuklinski was a killer, and he probably killed about ten people -- six of which were confirmed and a couple he was convicted of. But to actually write that Kuklinski killed hundreds of people, including the high-profile murders of Jimmy Hoffa, Carmine Galante, and Paul Castellano/Thomas Bilotti, among others, is ridiculous.

Everybody involved in the Hoffa murder has long been identified, it's just there was never any evidence to prosecute and now most of them are dead.

Everybody who was involved in the Galante murder has been identified -- again, most of the suspects are dead. In fact, one man was convicted of being one of the three shooters in that murder -- his name was Anthony "Bruno" Indelicato, and he served nearly fifteen years in prison for it, was paroled around the year 2000, and is now back in jail on murder conspiracy charges.

Everybody involved in the murders of Castellano/Bilotti have also been identified.

In none of these murders was Kuklinski ever mentioned as being involved or even a suspect despite a slew of informers identifying all those involved and tireless investigative efforts of members of law enforcement who worked long and hard trying to solve those cases.

Richard Kuklinki was a liar, and Philip Carlo should write for Disney because he writes fairy tales. He knew Kuklinski was lying and still wrote this garbage-filled book. If he ever gets another book published, it will be a real shame -- because it will mean that any half-brained crackpot can get a book published, and that's just sad and somewhat insulting to REAL non-fiction authors who vigoriously research and fact-check the people and events they write about to come up with the most accurate account as humanly possible.

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I have always been fascinated by The Iceman. I watched the HBO America Undercover interviews back in the day as well as read his book. But I agree with you 100%. He killed people, but not even close to the number he claims to have. The Jimmy Hoffa, Galante murder confession put it over the edge for me. Some random hit at a red light, ok. But traveling to Detroit to rub out Hoffa. Not even close.

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I thought that about Carlo as well, it seemed like he was in love with Anthony Casso too.

Hooper drives the boat chief

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I thought that about Carlo as well, it seemed like he was in love with Anthony Casso too.

I think unlike Kuklinski, Casso, did kill a lot of people.

Isn't Phil Carlo dead now?

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Lol here is fjenkins going around acting like everyone should agree with him and if they don't then they are idiots.

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Yeah, the book was a good read, but had a WHOLE lot of credibility problems when it came to Kuklinski's claims.

One more thing, Carlo died in 2010 so he won't be writing Disney fairy tales.

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That is good. There are certainly worse lies out there than a man not killing as many people as he claimed since that means more people are still living.

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Everyone here stole my thunder.

However, I do believe Roy Demeo did kill an awful lot of people.

How about you all?

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Roy DeMeo was a ruthless Mob killer.

The Iceman was a demented killer too, but not some Mob contract killer.

He was a complulsive liar.

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