Just finished watching this movie, having already read the Philip Carlo book and they are nothing alike....i totally can't get my head around it at all!...the film captured him to be a loving family man who his wife adored, yet in the book and in interviews his wife has said how brutal he was to her etc.....Did she ever fight to have the romanticized movie depiction stopped?...or was the movie a true account?
Not sure what to believe?!
Who cares? Just tell yourself the movie is about a fictional guy. Magic! Problem solved.
For every lie I unlearn I learn something new - Ani Difranco
From what I've read (iceman confessions) and seen (HBO documentaries) he was very physically abusive to his wife. Although he apparently never physically abused his 2 daughters. But they were both aware of his violent side. Decent movie I thought,
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Honestly, I was disheartened when I watched "Iceman Confessions" after seeing the movie. He clearly confesses to being "domestically violent" with his wife. I don't understand the decision to leave this out of the movie. One other thing that they kinda got, but could have done better with was this guy's charisma. He had a way about him that was very inviting...but he was a sociopath.
Still a good movie though, for style, pacing, etc.
You don't need wife-beating exposition every five minute to get that the guy was a psycho behind curtains as well. The film obviously glorified this side of the 'truth' to tell a better story, and some scenes quite clearly showed his true nature when family was around, no less his hostile attitude towards them.
Dead or alive, you're cuming with me
i'm totally aware that he did't do that rat torture etc and due to his condition...(sociopathy i think)...he felt the need to brag about outlandish murders and methods of doing them just to get the recognition for it and boost his ego etc....i think he was quite likable on the interview on the telly
also WHY has nothing ever really been brought up as to why he was ''murdered' or 'poisoned' a few hours before testifying against the mafia...and the mafio fella walked away scot free....i think the Iceman could of been a nice bloke but his chidhood background scarred him for life and he had no choice anymore
sorry this has been a ramble lol, im a bit tipsy haha
I'll wager they left out his wife beating and turned it into some big love story because Hollywood are massively cynical, all that matters is the mighty dollar and they know if a dude takes his wife or a date to the cinema to see The Iceman a load of wife beating scenes is gonna make her head right to the exit door. Yes, they are that miserably pathetic.
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More worrying is the person who uses "The Iceman" as a date movie, tbh! If she's OK with seeing a movie about a contract killer to begin with, then I doubt wife-beating would be beyond the pale.
"Your mother puts license plates in your underwear? How do you sit?!"
They did it the way they did for contrast to make what he did the more shocking in the film. He was a sociopath, so.....
shareHi Ithilfaen, but it wasn't a made up guy but a real living person, bad guy or good guy his story deserves the truth!!
what i THINK was the true story(the Philip Carlo one) didn't need changing or dumbing down as it was interesting of its right
To support the tagline of the movie
shareNeither was true. He killed about 5 people in his life, and when in jail read Murder Machine, and claimed he worked for Roy Demeo.
No one in Roy's Crew ever heard of him. He also claimed he killed Roy Demeo, and Jimmy Hoffa.
He wanted to make people think he was the biggest contract killer ever.
In truth, he was a hitman, but just an ordinary one.
Neither the book nor movie are true.
He was abusive and a murderer, but he made up most of his "legend". There's pretty much no evidence supporting the claim that he was a Mob contract killer.