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Da'Vine Joy Randolph: Another Sassy Fat Black Woman role??


Why is America obsessed with seeing black women as obese, sassy and playing maids? I thought we were past this until my friend Helen and I watched The Holdovers. How is this winning Da'Vine Joy Randolph best supporting actress? I see nothing unique about her performance other then she could play Octavia Spencer’s sister in The Help.

It’s too bad that Hollywood only will vote for black women in roles where they basically play slaves. Black men are allowed to be conventional, but with a few exceptions - it seems the Sassy Black Woman has to always take the podium. As if this is a character where people are still getting used to, or finding so authentic. I grew up on the south side of Chicago and went to school with hundreds of Da'Vine Joy Randolphs. My aunty is black herself. And even she’s sick of roles like these winning Oscars.

The film is quite good, but I am insulted that a performance this simple is once again being singled out as fresh and unique 🤷🏻‍♂️. We’ve seen it before so many times.

I blame the voters. They just won’t open their minds to black people playing anything else but what fits in the box. I wish a movie like Love Jones (1997) would have earned Nia Long and Larenz Tate nominations for playing middle class African Americans who are dating and having fun. Why can’t Hollywood nominate those types of characters??

Da'Vine Joy Randolph‘s role seems hand crafted to fit the Disney/Netflix image of what an obese jolly black woman should act like. It’s too bad we haven’t progressed after all these decades!

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You mention fresh and unique a few times, but it's Best Supporting Actress not Most Fresh & Unique Supporting Actress. If anything the awards typically recognize obvious performances. If an acclaimed movie like this has a good performance by a supporting actress then they will likely get nominated. Viola Davis, Regina King and Ariana DeBose all won in the same category in the past decade and none of them play the character you describe.

Also the character isn't jolly. She's mourning the death of her son.

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It's kind of a statement about class. The wealthy white kids go to college and get deferments from military service while the black kid ends up killed in Vietnam.

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The scene where Mary recalls her son talking about the upside about being drafted is that he would get to go to college on the GI Bill. She is saddened by the fact that even that possibility was taken from him. Great performance from Da Vine Joy Randolph.

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Just shut up, and stop making things into a racist rant.

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I agree to disagree. I absolutely did not see her that way. She was very vulnerable after dealing a great loss in her life. She was far from a stereotype.

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BLEH....GARBAGE COMMENT.

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Tropes can be annoying for sure but I thought the character was broader than you described. I liked how the movie gave her every reason to hate the world and wallow in being a victim of racism or socioeconomic status; instead she had a positive role in improving the lives of people who were least like her

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Put a fat black woman in a movie nowdays and there is always going to be this assumption. She wasn't a stereotype, a maid, or a slave. She was an interesting, three-dimensional character.

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