Why did he kill his bodyguard
At the park ... That's the only part I didn't understand ... Did he jus didn't care anymore about life and just was like the hell with it???
shareAt the park ... That's the only part I didn't understand ... Did he jus didn't care anymore about life and just was like the hell with it???
sharePeople have various opinions on the matter.
To me, I think he killed him because he knew the bodyguard would keep him safe...and he didn't want to be safe. He wanted to die.
Or at least...until the end when he realized he really wanted to live.
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Hmmm cool point .... Thanks
shareI just took it as one of many random gestures amidst a pile of pretentious claptrap designed to make people seek deep hidden meanings. Why? An off-target attempt by Cronenberg to seem bold and artistic.
Cronenberg followed the 2003 book by DeLillo which was not random but instead highly prescient.
shareIn what way was it "highly prescient"?
While I enjoyed DeLillo's book White Noise, it was a fictional story by an author...not a psychic.
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Pretty much this.
sharehah! "cool point." i like it.
shareWhile that addresses one part of his motivation, it doesn't explain it all by far. For example, why murder him rather than just telling him he's fired?
Did he develop antisocial or dissocial personality disorder, and feel that this was, logically, probably simpler than a firing? Or did he have something against the bodyguard that made him want to kill him rather than just remove him from his life? What he did is not how normal people react when they want to simply make a change to their life that can be made without, you know, murder.
What a lovely way to burn...
Just my interpretation, but in my opinion Packer is a total sociopath. That should be obvious, but it's that quality which allows him to kind of exist outside of society, break it down, manipulate it towards his personal gain, become its benevolent god in a sense.
Yet in the whole film, it seems like he's yearning to feel something, feel alive, normality, pain, even death, to bring himself down to earth: he's so detached from it all. And I think that's at least part of the reason he killed his bodyguard, because he could and he wanted to know what it felt like in addition to kind of guiding his own downfall. He wanted to make something happen. He wanted to destroy -- destruction is the purest form of creation and so forth.
I completely agree. Maybe he did it to see what it felt like, similar to when he was asking one of his bodyguards to shoot him with her stun gun.
shareNice point!!! That makes a lot of sense. I wondered about why that was in there. Knowing Cronenberg it could have been in there just for the sake of a Gotcha! moment but I would agree with what you said! Thanks!
shareI thought it was because the body guard failed by letting him get pie'd in the face.
shareThe pie incident obviously didn't help, lol. But, if you notice, he doesn't look directly at Torval the entire film until he shoots him. There is deep seeded disdain for Torval, or more likely, for the dependence, necessity and obstacle he represents for Eric.
shareMy opinion is that he was a selfish scumbag who had everything, and didn't see the lives of others as material or important. So the next step for such a person is to take what even the most wealthy and powerful are not supposed to take in our society, the life of another. His bodyguard trusted him implicitly and gave him a convenient opportunity, that's it.
What a lovely way to burn...
He wouldn't let him get the haircut. Which a) was ruining his plans and b) was none of his business to do. He was the employee telling his boss what he could and couldn't do. So he killed him to get the haircut and because he was pissed.
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A bit about the bodyguard from the press kit:
Eric Packer is protected by seen and unseen forces. Kevin Durand plays Torval, Eric’s head of security. At 6’6” he is an intimidating presence, and his character is armed and dangerous. Torval is constantly warning Eric away from his journey, especially as he receives information about “credible threats.” But Eric ignores the warnings and subverts his own security.
Durand sees his character “as a frustrated, ex-Military, father-figure to Eric.” He likens Eric to “his teenage son; I can try to guide him in the right direction, but he will ultimately do what he wants.” Torval’s assistants are Kendra (Patricia McKenzie) and Danko (Zeljko Kecojevic), whose intense encounters with Eric function to further reveal his emotional emptiness.
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Maybe "our hero" was an asocial, conscience-free jerkoff and he killed his bodyguard the way most people might swat a fly...he was annoyed, so he killed him.
shareWe'll never know exactly why since it's never revealed. It seemed that he murdered him for the same reason that kings, mob bosses and dictators murder their servants, annoyance or in a fit of frustration, like swatting a mosquito. Packer is totally insane by the end of the film. (Was the name Packer inspired by real-life Australian mogul Kerry Packer?)
shareMy interpretation is that it was part of the downward spiral, which he was actively pursuing. If he'd fired the bodyguard, or just dismissed him, there would have been no real consequence. But, once he shot the bodyguard, that's when he went past the point of no return. Even if he had turned away at the end, he can no longer return to life as normal. Which is what his wife was offering him.
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