Don't let the critics or billbrown ruin Aquman for you. - Aquaman (2018) Discussion

[–] billbrown7071 (3194) 6 years ago

lol you just gave Your opinion here!

nothing else...

You did not do anything to argue against critics...

if you like this movie thats perfectly fine....

I havent seen it yet, I'm going tomorrow...I'm sure I'm going to love it....its right up ally ....

But the facts are the facts....this movie is not well reviewed and even the reviews that are positive are just barely positive and average at best...

it seems this is really bothering you, It seems YOU WANT Aquaman to be liked more than it actually is...

It seems you are trying to PUSH YOUR Opinion on to everyone else

When I go see Aquaman tomorrow...If I love it....I'm certainly not going to come back and say ....

OMG this is a great movie, The critics are wrong, they are biased!

I'll simply say, Man I really liked this movie more than most did....I wont try to IGNORE the consensus!

thats what you are doing here Lady_Leopard17 ....

You dont like that the consensus clearly is Aquaman is Average to slightly Above Average....You dont like that Aquman has A really bad RT average score, you dont like that Aquaman has A Bad Metascore, You dont like that Aquaman isnt even on par with the Weakest MCU films....

You LOVE this movie and are angry the consensus is not what YOU WANT it to be...

feel free to make all the threads you want saying you like the film....but dont try to make your opinion the consensus because its not....and dont say The Critics and Billbrown are wrong...

because we arent, critics gave their reviews, Its their opinion, those opinions then make a consensus...

and I'm not wrong because I'm not actually giving an opinion, and I'm only stating the facts...I will give my opinion once i see Aquaman....right now when I talk about Aquaman all I can do it go by the facts....and the facts are not good for Aquaman...

learn from this thread I made....I made this thread several days ago after watching Venom....Note how I DO NOT TRY to make my Opinion the consensus, Note how I dont Tell Critics they are WRONG....there is a reason for this....

I dont tell critics they are WRONG and I dont try to say "Nope this is a great movie, anyone who thinks other wise is wrong" because I'm not bothered by The Consensus of the film...

I'm perfectly ok LIKING a movie that others dont....

this seems to be impossible for you....You seem to be so bothered by Aquaman's consensus and that Most dont like Aquaman as much as you....You are trying to IGNORE the consensus and state your opinion as facts!

I wouldn't be surprised if when it comes time for Disney to start production on a live action remake of The Little Mermaid that Disney will hire the same special effects team from Aquman to work on The Little Mermaid...I mean Aquman has just dominated under water special effects.

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lol I highly doubt Disney is going to hire the special effects company responsible for A film that is getting Average reviews at best and being described in most reviews as "The best Marvel film DC has ever made"...

I get it, you LOVE Aquaman...its ok for you to believe its an under water masterpiece...but this is just your opinion...the consensus is very clear...

Aquaman is pretty much kinda of the Transformers of comic book movies...

every review, even the positive ones notes the story is bad, The characters are bad, The Dialog is bad, But Its fun and The CGI and action is good...

I'm sorry but Aquaman is just not seen as this Underwater masterpiece you believe it to be...Its beyond absurd to act like Disney would rush out and hire the people involved with a film that is getting LUKE WARM reviews at best(I mean that Literally, again even most of the positive reviews are just barely positive and note massive problems with the film.), a film that does not have Good Word of Mouth and A film that EVEN The People Who like it....Just barely like it!

I think you might be delusional at this point...are you looking at the wrong reviews? are you looking at Wonder Woman's reviews or something? because that would make sense....If Aquaman had a consensus like Wonder Woman....then ya you'd have every right to say the stuff your saying

but were talking about a film that isnt even on par with Thor 2?

do you honestly believe Any major studio in Hollywood said "Oh Man we got to get the special effect team behind Thor 2" after seeing Thor 2?

lol Aquaman has worst reviews,worse RT scores,Worse Metascores, same the Cinemascore as Thor 2.....

lol your suggesting a film that isnt even on par with Thor 2 is a masterpiece that is going to cause Disney to go out a hire the team behind it...

I'm sorry but nothing about the films data and consensus even remotely suggests your opinions on the film is even close to what the majority feels.

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[–] billbrown7071 (3194) 6 years ago

critics considered Aquaman worse than Thor 2 and Audiences consider it about the same...critics gave it worst reviews than Thor 2, Audiences are giving it the same score as Thor 2....so either BOTH Thor 2 and Aquaman are Masterpieces or you are simply delusional when it comes to Aquaman

these are delusional and Angry thoughts....

you can not accept that Aquaman isnt as liked as YOU WANT!

so your literally living in a fantasy world!

the rest of us are here in the real world where Aquaman is Average to Slightly above average ...

again I'm seeing Aquaman tomorrow, I expect to love it, I dont care about plot and dialog, I've loved 4 out the 5 Transformers films...CGI action and over the top fun is my thing...I have no doubt I'll probably have Aquaman as one of my favorite films...

but I wont feel the need to try and Make my opinion the consensus...I'll be fine with Liking a film more than others do..

I'll even bump this thread a Note ...I saw Aquaman , I loved it....but thats just my opinion...I wont claim Critics are wrong or biased or call out certain posters...

you are Lost...at this point you seem to simply be too invested in the outcome...you can't be happy with just YOU liking the film, It KILLS you that everyone else doesnt like it.

this is no doubt due to jealousy, Your probably a HUGE DC fan and have suffered a decade of watching MCU films have unprecedented success while at the same time watching DCEU films have awful failure...

Your now finally having success with Aquaman, but its KILLING you that its not the Success YOU WANT and NOT MCU type success...

your just going to have to find a way to find peace...

Its perfectly ok just be happy LIKING a film yourself....aquaman is going to make a lot of money, Its gonna be a hit...You dont need to be this caught up in it not being as Great as you WANTED...

Its average, Its doing great box office(well at least overseas) and you love it....that should be enough...

I'm sorry your not having the same experiences MCU fans are having where their films are universally praised and loved and have incredible box office runs...I know you want that....

but Aquaman can only give you Half of that....the film just doesnt seem to be good enough to get the universally LOVE you so desperately want...

just try to find peace...I love lots of films that are considered bad or average...I dont let it bother me....you need to work towards this!

no matter what you say...no more what you do.....you left with the facts...

the facts say Aquaman isnt even on par with Thor 2....period!

your more than within your right to believe its an under water masterpiece that will make Studios Bend the knee...

just know, thats only your opinion...

PS...

so you know I'm not biased...

I feel Black Panther is not at all as great as the consensus say...

when I watch BB ...I see a decent movie at best...I do not see a 97% on RT film, 700 M + domestic earner or Golden Globes and Maybe Oscar nominations...

I just see a decent film...but I'm ok with that...I dont try to claim everyone is wrong about it being great, I just accept that I have a different opinion...I accept the consensus, I just personal dont agree with it...

this is what you should work toward !...it would bring you peace

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[–] Bosdog6777 (817) 6 years ago

Just come out of the closet Bill. You have our full support. Just come out of the closet

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[–] AP (5288) 6 years ago

I saw it. It was entertaining. For a DCEU movie that is glowing praise.

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[–] TJLamb0518 (3316) 6 years ago

That’s my review as well. Is it great? Great eye candy. And Mamoa, while not heroic in the least, is engaging. It’s good enough. It’s by far the best DCEU movie, but really ...that’s a low bar.

What this really does (with Wonder Woman) is show what a colossal scre up Zack Snyder was.

I paid 5.00 for a matinee in my 1/3 full theater so I have no complaints.

Besides...the three trailers were Captain Marvel, Dark Phoenix and Endgame....so that was a win.

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[–] Alex (1503) 6 years ago

I give Aquaman 7/10 just for the sake of awesome action and gorgeous cinematography.
Also, Amber Heard as a red head is hot as hell. And I barely remembered her from Drive Angry as a generic blonde :D

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[–] TJLamb0518 (3316) 6 years ago

A very fair rating.

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[–] QueenFanUSA (3379) 6 years ago

If you sat in a "1/3 full theater" for Aquaman, imagine how empty Mary Poppins was next door?

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[–] TJLamb0518 (3316) 6 years ago

I have no idea and don't care. Unlike incels like you, I care about how the movie I'm WATCHING does the job, not how it compares to other movies.

Seriously, inflate a date already. You desperately need it.

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[–] QueenFanUSA (3379) 6 years ago

You're the one who felt it necessary to bring up that your theater was 1/3 full. What did that have to do with the movie "getting it he job done" for you?

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[–] TJLamb0518 (3316) 6 years ago

Wow...the facts REALLY bother you, don't they? You're the one speculating about the crowd size of a theater neither of us were in (hence, pure speculation). I'm just saying what WAS occurring in the theater I WAS in.

Seriously...if you won’t inflate a date...hire one. You need to empty the poison.

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[–] billbrown7071 (3194) 6 years ago

lol hey Lady...

notice you've got nothing but replies saying the movie is just ok?

fun, decent action but Not great

lol far from the Underwater masterpiece thats going to bring Hollywood to knees that YOU BELIEVE IT IS.

I think about it, even on THE AQUAMAN board were still getting the same responses, as I said Even the positive reviews are barely Positive....and now the same thing is happening here.

most people who like it, just think its decent

but if you want to believe Critics are wrong, Audiences are wrong, everyone on this board is wrong, If you want to believe theres a giant conspiracy among all these people to say the exact same thing to Keep this Underwater masterpiece thats going to bring Hollywood to its knees down

more power to you I guess...whatever gets you through this difficult time of watching Marvel Studios dominate while DC fails, Then starts over by copying Marvel Studios

PS wasnt it you who hilariously tried to say Aquaman has the same tone as The Dark Knight because Its killing you that everyone is noting Aquaman looks and feels like an MCU movie?

didnt you a few days actually try to say "Aquaman has a serious tone like The Dark Knight" and Not a kidding Tone like MCU films?

I think so..didnt I ask you to play a game?

lets play the reviews game, you find reviews or any notable website or person in Hollywood to agree with you that Aquaman has a serious Dark Knight tone...

and I would meet back with 10 reviews and websites word for word saying Aquaman copied The MCU's fun,humorous and lighter tone?

I'm still waiting to play that game...?

can you literally not find a single review or website that says Aquaman is a serious, Dark Knight tone like film?

lol I'll post 10 for everyone you find....

lol just accept...DC tried thier own thing, it resulted in the biggest creative failure in Hollywood history in 4 out 5 awful DCEU films....now DC is copying Marvel Studios but just arent doing it well, Its leading to success...just Not MCU

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[–] Lady_Leopard17 (222) 6 years ago

Lol! When did I say that Aquman was an under water master piece? What I said was that Aquman had dominated in under water special effects... learn to read a little bit more closely, in fact I wouldn't be surprised if Aquman wins an Oscar for best visual effects.

PS. I now believe that the main reason you seem to derive such please when a DC or WB film fails is because of your retarded lover's quaral you have with queen, cause you know that if WB were to make a series of phenomenal trilogies like with Harry Potter and The Dark Knight that queen would never let you live it down and he would have the ultimate bragging rights....and thought terrifies you doesn't dumb shit, that's why you want WB to keep failing so you can maintain your bragging rights.

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[–] TJLamb0518 (3316) 6 years ago

Don't forget watching DC Zealots like you twist in the wind over the fact that AQUAMAN, the joke of the Super Friends and the JLA, is probably THAT best DCEU movie...and it's at best a 7/10.

All those YEARS you wasted proclaiming that Marvel was out to ruin the DCEU and that Zack Snyder was NOT the problem...and friggin' Aquaman proved you wrong.

I'm hoping Shazam (the bargain rate Superman) beats out the Snyder films just to watch you drooling fanboys try to spin that MoS, BvS and JL were not steaming piles of crap.

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[–] billbrown7071 (3194) 6 years ago

not gonna play the game?

https://variety.com/2018/film/box-office/aquaman-box-office-dc-future-1203095414/

"The film’s humorous tone suggests that the DC Universe finally took a page from Marvel’s lighthearted approach to masked Avengers’ movies. If some painfully cheesy jokes are the price moviegoers have to pay for hero with some personality, it’s one well worth paying. It’s also promising when looking at the future of DC. Cavill appears to be hanging up his red cape, and it’s unlikely that Affleck will get another call to play the Caped Crusader, but the momentum behind “Wonder Woman” and “Aquaman” signals that the Justice League might look a little different in years to come. Ezra Miller’s The Flash and Zachary Levi’s Shazam, both of whom are getting standalone features of their own, could join that company and see some more time in the spotlight."

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doesnt sound like anyone but you thinks Aquaman has a Dark Knight tone?

seems everyone thinks Aquaman Copied Marvel Studios as I said

Lol! When did I say that Aquman was an under water master piece? What I said was that Aquman had dominated in under water special effects... learn to read a little bit more closely, in fact I wouldn't be surprised if Aquman wins an Oscar for best visual effects.

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I'm sorry was it not you that suggested Aquamans under water effects were so stunning it would be almost impossible for Disney to now make a Little Mermaid movie, and if they did, They would probably be rushing out to hire the effects company behind Aquaman?

if that doesnt sound like your suggesting Aquaman is an underwater masterpiece I dont know what does

you seem to think Aquaman's underwater effects are so great, Its going to bring A Studio to its Knees

and the facts just dont support that, not very many people agree with your opinion

I dont see any reviews suggesting Aquaman's Under Water effects are so great its going to brings Studios to its knees

I dont see any reviews claiming Aquaman is going to force Studios to start making movies differently...

Its perfectly fine you love Aquaman and thinks its Effects are amazing

Just dont say things like "Disney Will now have to hire the effects team behind Aquaman for a Little Mermaid movie"

because Aquaman just isnt that well liked....If Aquaman had Wonder Woman type reviews and reactions then you might have a case....but the facts are Aquaman is getting The absolutely lowest possible reviews that can remain fresh...The consensus is universal thats its nothing more than A Fun, action film with massive problems

how you believe thats a movie that is going to bring Disney to its Knee and change the way they make movies is nothing but delusional...

PS. I now believe that the main reason you seem to derive such please when a DC or WB film fails is because of your retarded lover's quaral you have with queen, cause you know that if WB were to make a series of phenomenal trilogies like with Harry Potter and The Dark Knight that queen would never let you live it down and he would have the ultimate bragging rights....and thought terrifies you doesn't dumb shit, that's why you want WB to keep failing so you can maintain your bragging rights.

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there is A lot truth to this statement

I do find myself taking joy in films failing that I dont even care about because Queen predicted them to do great...

for example...Queen was HUGE on Ready PLayer One....I dont care one bit what that films makes....but once its came in nowhere near where Queen predicted I took great Joy in it.

The same came be said with Aquaman....as you can see, I'm in no way claiming Aquaman is NOT A HIT or is an Awful film....

the facts are Aquaman is a step in the right direction....buuuuuuuuuut to my great joy....its no where Near what Queen predicted,expected and guaranteed...

so I'm getting great JOY in queen being wrong.. NOT that Aquaman is bad or a failure.

but I also cant let you get away with delusional statements....where I ONLY go by f

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[–] billbrown7071 (3194) 6 years ago

acts ...you seem to be going by your opinion and trying to make your opinion FACTS

I have no problem admitting Aquaman is a hit.....but you seem to be delusional when it comes to the level of hit and quality the film is...

theres not 1 thing you can point that suggests Aquaman is as Great as you believe it is....the facts simply say Aquaman is a decent film at best....

likewise, theres not 1 thing I can point to that suggests Aquaman is Bad(which I havent even 1 time)

The only thing I point out is the facts and the consensus.....and those facts and consensus are NOT close to what your opinion of the film is and Not close to what Queen predicted..

cause you know that if WB were to make a series of phenomenal trilogies like with Harry Potter and The Dark Knight that queen would never let you live it down and he would have the ultimate bragging rights....and thought terrifies you doesn't dumb shit, that's why you want WB to keep failing so you can maintain your bragging rights.

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this is at least the 3rd time you've tried to pull the "That terrifies you " card and this is now the 3rd time you've spectacularly failed

once again had you done any research you would have seen this is not true

Queen has Beating clean 3 times....all 3 times I have immediately made a post saying "Good call queen you won this one"

the most notable is SOLO

I argued with queen for a year about SOLO....Queen relentlessly claimed the Star Wars franchise was in trouble after The Last Jedi and predicted SOLO to make Less than 500 Million WW

I thought this was absurd and constantly made fun of him about it

this is not an exaggeration, within 10 minutes of the first earlier projections coming in on SOLO's OW where it was clear SOLO was drastically under performing, I made a post to Queen saying "Queen You were right and have been right for a year....The Star Wars franchise is in trouble...SOLO is a disaster, you won!"

now I would like to also pointout (because queen is my Bitter Enemy) that I've been doing battle with queen for almost 2 years now and in that time Queen has been wrong literally Hundreds of times to 3 times he was right...

But the point is...I had no problem, cleanly giving Queen the win when he actually got one right...

so that kills your "If WB ever made A great trilogy queen would never let you live it down"...

Its already happened you gigantic idiot...I've congratulated queen 3 times on FLAT OUT WINNING.....

The reason your "That terrifies me" is such a fail is .......queen as been wrong so many times, that he could never hold bragging rights over me for getting 1 right.

thats why Queen hasnt and doesnt mention the SOLO win..because if he tried to bring on I was wrong about SOLO, I would just counter with the 9 films He MISSED by over 50 Million dollars on their opening weekends...

This is not an Exaggeration, I have near 100 fails from Queen to 1 he got right...

lol simply put, Queen could never Hold Bragging rights over me, Therefor I cant be "Terrified".....All time Epic fail on your part....give up this "That scares you" and "That Terrifies you" deal you keep trying....you have failed every time you've tried it

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I find it quite hilarious that WB is now 6 films Deep in their DCEU and your still saying "If WB ever makes a great series of films"

lol you accidentally spoke the truth your so desperately trying not to accept.....Deep down you know the DCEU films arent good and you just accidentally revealed it.

Also check my history on Wonder Woman.......you'll see I have no problem giving credit where credit is do....WW is a grandslam, The facts and consensus is absolutely clear...Its universally praised and Loved...

I'm not biased, I only speak facts....and unfortunately The facts just arent good for 5 of the 6 DCEU films....

PSS...

how bout that review

""The film’s humorous tone suggests that the DC Universe finally took a page from Marvel’s lighthearted approach to masked Avengers’ movies. If some painfully cheesy jokes are the price moviegoers have to pay for hero with some personality, it’s one well worth paying. "

lol

Boy sure doesnt sound like a movie with a Dark Knight Tone to me?

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[–] QueenFanUSA (3379) 6 years ago

Umm...bill.

I'm still waiting you to own up to being wrong on The Grinch seriously damaging Ralph Breaks the Internet. Remember you mocking my "poor WIR2 post"?

You were still saying JUST LAST WEEK that Ralph "will make a LARGE PROFIT", too! LOL

You also kept throwing out the boxoffice pro prediction of 350 million domestic for Mary Poppins Returns and when I LAUGHED IN YOUR FACE two months ago for actually believing that was going to happen you called me a "gigantic idiot" because Christmas would push it to that height.

Also...just days ago you were still clinging to the "Mary Poppins is predicted to beat Aquaman" to which I said "I know...and it's a DUMB prediction that made no sense in the real world. Think for yourself for a minute!"

You've gone totally silent on Mary Poppins. You've YET to give me a sliver of credit or admit embarrassment on that front.

Also, you use a 6 night total OW for Ralph to say it beat the Grinch's 3-day when you don't do the same for Aquaman. Bottom line is that Ralph opened almost 10 million UNDER the Grinch.

Those the most recent ones. I'll patiently wait for the mea culpas.

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[–] QueenFanUSA (3379) 6 years ago

...and bill...just one more thing I need you to clarify.

Ralph Breaks the Internet's budget is 175 million.

Aquaman's is 200 million.

Only a 25 million difference and yet you say that Aquaman must make 700-750 million to break even but Ralph has only barely broke past 300 million after being out over a month but you insist it will "make a LARGE PROFIT".

Do tell.

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[–] TJLamb0518 (3316) 6 years ago

And yet, you claimed Ant-Man and the Wasp was a flop. Since we're bringing in all these movies that have nothing to do with Aquaman, why not bring up YOUR idiotic failings?

Seriously, will you 2 just get a room and get it over with? I'm sure you're ready to be his sloppy power bottom.

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[–] QueenFanUSA (3379) 6 years ago

Got nuthin' bill?

I thought you admit when you are wrong?I've listed three of your most recent embarrassments and now you are running and hiding again?

tsk tsk

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[–] BrunoAntony (1198) 6 years ago

Literally nobody cares about your personal rivalry with "billbrown".

This is a public message board, not your Facebook chat group.

Discuss the film.

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