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That's it! Average Gringo is stupid...


The problem with Flashforward was that, from the roots, was intended to people able to meditate and think. Most Flashforward fans are smart enough to enjoy the film... but most of gringo people (those who didn't watch the series because of it's moral complexity and overall argument, don't take me bad) prefer to watch such moronic crap like "Dancing with the Stars", "American Idol" or... even worst, "Vampire diaries" and "Glee" recaps...

Man, quality TV is almost dead in Gringoland nowadays.

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sorry man it was just poor writing.

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I loved LOST because it was complex. But FF, while TRIED to be equally interesting, it didn't succeed. The whole implementation of the show (from writing down to editing and music score) was just flawed. It's like they didn't pick the right professionals to work on it.

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What was wrong with the score? I thought it was great!

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I loved Flash Forward, but Vampire Diaries was good too.

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I feel the exact opposite: Lost only SEEMED complex. The first season was pretty good. From then on it went downhill quickly. It's like they only had one season worth of good stories and then they made 4 extra seasons up, just to earn some quick cash...

Flash Forward is extremely well thought through. If you've seen the entire season, and watch episode one again, you'll notice some small things you wouldn't (couldn't) have noticed the first time around. Small clues that often actually have meaning.

In Lost, after season 1, they just started adding "mysteries" to the stories. Mysteries they might have intended to solve later on, but they just didn't. Open endings to a movie or a series can be very good, but in the case of Lost it was just laziness and cheapness...

Also it feels like JJ Abrams kinda abandoned the series later on (too busy working on Cloverfield and Star Trek maybe?) ... Anyhow, Flashforward just felt good and complete. Perhaps you just didn't get all of it? ;)

Though I don't like the "destiny" touch they gave FlashForward from episode 18 onward in the series... I don't like these supernatural things mixed with sci-fi (another mistake Lost tended to make). Anyway, Brannon Braga finally managed to use timetravel in a completely original and non-annoying way. Bravo! :)

Anyway, FFwd absolutely earned at least a second season, and I still hope HBO/Syfy or another network will pick it up (just don't lean towards destiny too much now, and don't forget to mix in some more chaos theory!)

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Lost only SEEMED complex. The first season was pretty good. From then on it went downhill quickly. It's like they only had one season worth of good stories and then they made 4 extra seasons up, just to earn some quick cash...

What a ridiculous statement. While there are some people complaining about too few answers (which is entirely subjective and varies from viewer to viewer) and some who didn't like the ending, most people would strongly disagree that Lost was a "one-hit wonder". With the exception of the middle section of Season 2 and the opening arc of Season 3 the entire show was well-received. And to blame the writers of Lost of "milkin g it to earn to quick cash" is fairly pathetic considering they actively lobbied ABC to grant them an end date.

And it's fairly ridiculous to blame Lost for what they did post-S1 because we don't know what Flashforward would've done. That it ended after Season 1 was not an accomplishment or a conscious choice on the writers' part. FF got CANCELLED.

Flash Forward is extremely well thought through. If you've seen the entire season, and watch episode one again, you'll notice some small things you wouldn't (couldn't) have noticed the first time around. Small clues that often actually have meaning.

Lost did the same thing a thousand times better than Flashforward. That's not even up to debate I'd say.

And let's not forget that FF changed it's showrunners MULTIPLE TIMES and was completely rewritten during the hiatus, meaning most of those "clues" were resolved in a much different way than what was originally planned.

In Lost, after season 1, they just started adding "mysteries" to the stories.

Lost is a serialied show. Which means the story is expanding and growing in scale over time. So what's your point here?

And again, you don't know what would've happened to Flashforward. Obviously the FF's writers would need to create some new mysteries, too.

Mysteries they might have intended to solve later on, but they just didn't. Open endings to a movie or a series can be very good, but in the case of Lost it was just laziness and cheapness...

Lost answered pretty much all major mysteries. I completely respect it when people say they would've liked more detailled info on certain mysteries like Walt (for example) but everyone who denies that Lost's main mysteries were answered is - in my opinion - just an irrelevant hater:

Do I know who Jacob is, what he wants and why he is there? Yes.
Do I know the same things about the Smoke Monster? Yes.
Do I know who the Dharma Initiative is, what kinds of experiments they did and what happened to them? Yes.
Do I know who The Others are and who brought them to the Island? Yes.
Do I know why all these other groups of people (Black Rock, Rousseau's team, Henry Gale,...) ended up on The Island? Yes.
Do I know why flight 815 crashed and what the purpose of the survivors was? Yes.

And these were the show's main mysteries. And if you don't agree that all those things were explained then I'd say you either never watched the show or you were just too stupid to comprehend the answers (although I'd hate to play this card because I don't like it when other people play it, either).

Over at Darkufo someone actually went through EVERY SINGLE EPISODE and noted all mysteries/questions and answers. There were 663 mystiers on Lost and out of those 536 were answered while only 127 questions were unanswered. So clearly Lost answered the vast majority of its mysteries. You can see the list here:

http://darkufo.blogspot.com/2010/08/lost-mysteries-and-answers-complet e-and.html

Oh and one last thing: Lost was NOT open-ended. Quite the opposite actually. Flashforward, on the other hand, was.

Also it feels like JJ Abrams kinda abandoned the series later on (too busy working on Cloverfield and Star Trek maybe?)

That just shows how little you know. JJ only helped creating Lost and co-wrote and directed the pilot. Then he left. Since that time Damon Lindelof (co-creator) and Carlton Cuse were the showrunners (including the majority of Seaason 1).

I don't like these supernatural things mixed with sci-fi (another mistake Lost tended to make)

Supernatural elements were present since the very beginning on Lost (Smoke Monster, Ghost-Christian, Whispers, Walt's abilities). If you don't like shows with supernatural elements in general, then you're in no position to judge Lost in the first place. That's like asking Paris Hilton to judge a sci-fi show like Flashforward. It's simply not her cup of tea.

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Or most gringos like me don't want their intelligence insulted by having 3 black FBI agents introduced in the first 20 mins.... UNREAL!

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OK. So, multiple universes... Why not? Seeing the future... it's possible. A single former drunk underling heading the investigation into the single most destructive event in recordable human history... it could happen. 3 black FBI agents... *beep* OFF, never gonna happen!

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