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'There is a scientific theory...'


Scientific theory: a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment.

I think the word they were looking for was "hypothesis."

I know it's just a movie, but people (especially Americans) seem to have an ever loosening grasp on what the word "theory" means. It's become synonymous with hypothesis, but it's a very, very different thing.



I still believe that peace and plenty and happiness can be worked out some way. I am a fool.

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Yeah. I have to correct people (even secularists) on that all the time.

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It's funny. Creationists like to go around shrugging off evolution as 'just a theory'

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I can tell you that the whole "belief made manifest" theory they ripped that off from an episode of a kids show from the 80's. LOL Sometimes I am ashamed for being an American.

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Meanings have a tendency to change over time. Pretty soon the word theory will mean the exact same thing as hypothesis. People don't like to say the word hypothesis. Watch the South Park episode about the word fag.

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No,the screenplay was inspired by an actual psychic experiment in the 1970s.

search 'the Philip experiment' at Google, or find a book called "Conjuring Philip" published in the 70s.

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Oh honey, honey, honey. Experiment and theory are so, SO not the same thing. Experiments are what are used to test hypotheses, and after many of those, one can look at the evidence and THEN form a theory.

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I still believe that peace and plenty and happiness can be worked out some way. I am a fool.

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countries which are pervaded so much by religion tend to reject anything related to science

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I think the semantic difference between theory and hypothesis is the least of this movie's scientific problems.

I mean (SPOILERS ahead maybe?) as I recall, the idea was that summoning the spirit required "belief" which can apparently be quantified as brain waves. So they made a brainwave amplifier to turn 4 believers into the equivalent of 4000 believers in order to summon the spirit better. But let's repeat the important part: They used a "brainwave amplifier" to amplify "belief energy". (Seriously, movie?) And then later, in order to try to undo what they had done, they played back the EEG recording from the first session, amplified even more, in reverse (which apparently also involved replaying the audio recording of the session in reverse?), because naturally the "belief energy" captured in brain waves will turn into, what, disbelief energy(?) if you just transmit the energy backwards? Or something?

Plus the other jibberjabber. This entity is older than any ghost or demon? How the hell does he know how old demons are? How would he have any way of quantifying how long this entity has been in purgatory, or even knowing that's where it's been? By what empirical process did he determine that this entity was not in fact a ghost but something different? And with a sample size of 2 dead, 1 suicide, 3 disappearances, and 1 sucked into a wall, how did he gather enough information to chart its "attack patterns" and compare its MO to other supernatural entities?

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Dude's a wizard, he just knows these kinds of things.

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