This movie was sexist


There are male witches too.

Why did they only show female ones???

I think this movie was sexist against men!!!!


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Totally! I get ur point! Cuz how else can all those witches exist? Good observation!

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They're warlocks, come on now.

"Speak when you are angry and you will make the best speech you will ever regret."

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No, NOT all male witches are Warlocks. A Warlock is a dark male witch who does not belong to a coven. Period.

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Wrong

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My personal opinion - if you take a look at popular American culture, and history (accurate or otherwise), in many stories or instances, women are often highlighted as the ones with magical powers, and therefore, there are usually more stories about female witches compared to warlocks (I personally have always heard about the many women who were burned at the stake, but not men). I'm not saying it's right or wrong, just stating it as I see it. Maybe the film makers wanted to help the audience relate as best they could to the heroes, and assumed most people will have grown up with females being in the foreground of tales such as the ones this movie is based off and around? Just a thought; take it as you like. :-)

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Robin Briggs calculates that 20 to 25 percent of Europeans executed for witchcraft between the 14th and 17th centuries were male. Regional variations are again notable. France was "a fascinating exception to the wider pattern, for over much of the country witchcraft seems to have had no obvious link with gender at all. Of nearly 1,300 witches whose cases went to the parlement of Paris on appeal, just over half were men. ... The great majority of the men accused were poor peasants and artisans, a fairly representative sample of the ordinary population." Briggs adds:

There are some extreme cases in peripheral regions of Europe, with men accounting for 90 percent of the accused in Iceland, 60 percent in Estonia and nearly 50 per cent in Finland. On the other hand, there are regions where 90 per cent or more of known witches were women; these include Hungary, Denmark and England. The fact that many recent writers on the subject have relied on English and north American evidence has probably encouraged an error of perspective here, with the overwhelming predominance of female suspects in these areas (also characterized by low rates of persecution) being assumed to be typical. Nor is it the case that the courts treated male suspects more favourably; the conviction rates are usually much the same for both sexes. (Briggs, Witches & Neighbours: The Social and Cultural Context of European Witchcraft, pp. 260-61.)

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witches weren't credited with magical powers of their own, they were considered to be empty vessels for the devils's evil to pour black magic into. women were considered to be far weaker in morality, common sense and crooked because of the bible story of adam and eve so women were considered prime suspects and targets. while as stated below, in various countries. men were also targeted as witches but british and north american sources which are the most prevalent, have a higher percentage of women being convicted


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Augsburg is in southern Germany. Which was at the centre of the 1600 witch-hunting craze. That was where they came up with the idea that witches tended to be ugly old women.

(As for how they came up with that idea, it seems that in Germany confessions under torture were regarded as evidence of guilt. And the demographic that was hardest to torture into anything was young men. The demographic that was easiest to torture into an admission may therefore have been old women.)

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>Anita Sarkeesian

It’s cool that I watched Anita Sarkeesian’s first Tropes vs. Women in Video Games video this week, because it gave me a new word for what happens to Gretel: she gets damseled. She goes from kick-ass action heroine to damsel in distress seemingly overnight.


http://msmuslamic.wordpress.com/2013/05/01/hansel-and-gretel-plot-coherence-is-for-amateurs/

>Islamic Feminism

Meanwhile:

A woman was beheaded in Saudi Arabia for practicing witchcraft and sorcery, the kingdom's Interior Ministry said, prompting Amnesty International to call for a halt in executions there.

Amina bint Abdel Halim Nassar was executed Monday for having "committed the practice of witchcraft and sorcery," according to an Interior Ministry statement. Nassar was investigated before her arrest and was "convicted of what she was accused of based on the law," the statement said. Her beheading took place in the Qariyat province of the region of Al-Jawf, the ministry said.

In a statement issued late Monday, the human rights group called the execution "deeply shocking" and said it "highlights the urgent need for a halt in executions in Saudi Arabia."

"While we don't know the details of the acts which the authorities accused Amina of committing, the charge of sorcery has often been used in Saudi Arabia to punish people, generally after unfair trials, for exercising their right to freedom of speech or religion," said Philip Luther, Amnesty International's interim director of the Middle East and North Africa Programme.


http://edition.cnn.com/2011/12/13/world/meast/saudi-arabia-beheading/index.html

Let me apply Sarkeesianism:

"It’s cool that I watched Anita Sarkeesian’s first Tropes vs. Women in Video Games video this year, because it gave me a new word for what happens to Amina: she gets damseled. She goes from kick-ass dissident to damsel in distress and then loses her head seemingly overnight. Saudi Arabia needs to stop using this old tired trope, becuase it's even more sexist than Mario."

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Excuse me ma'am, have you ever seen this movie?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100944/



One ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them.

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Long ago, it was generally believed that witches obtained their powers through consorting with the devil. Men could too, but it mostly fell on women.

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There were a few male witches in the end battle.

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I was kinda wondering why there were not any warlocks shown in the film. Also if Gretal is a witch (of sorts) does that mean that Hansel is a warlock?

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I learned some history in this thread today. Hopefully in the second film they can include some male witches.

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You also learned a whole lotta ignorant, uninitiated bullshit.

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