Porn is not evil

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Lazarillo: Well, I disagree with you about some things beginning from your very FIRST sentence.

Your blanket statement about alcohol and marijuana display a significant lack of understanding of both of these things.

To begin with, alcohol does have some benefits, including studies showing that people who drink a MODERATE (small) amount of wine actually live LONGER and have better health, and for you to say that marijuana has no benefit suggests you don't have a CLUE what you are talking about.

You've fallen for the standard anti-drug propaganda about mj being dangerous or addictive. The opposite is true. It is a VERY VALUABLE MEDICINE for millions of people - but the insane DEA and failed war on drugs idiocy in the US has spawned a global misinformation campaign that you've obviously fallen for.

And I'm replying to your post line by line - and I've just now read your sentence implying that being a feminist is a 'bad' thing. Wow. I'm wasting my breath trying to educate you - obviously, but I'll continue my post in hopes of informing others who will read this thread.

But all that being said, I agree with you that a large part of the damage done to porn stars is a hatred and pathological shame many puritan hypocrite Christians have towards sex.

But I sense in you a significant lack of sympathy for the large damage that porn does do to those who film it. (And I'll be you are one of those who consider yourself 'so much better than prostitutes' and such.)

But the fact is that porn grinds up women who star in it and spit them out as hollowed out shells when they've aged a few years. Porn, like working as a stripper (which my sister did for a year), teaches women that they are not valued for themselves, but only for a very small part of what they do - and it hardens women and teaches them that men don't care about them.

You guys need to speak to some porn stars like Jessie Jane and Rachel Starr. Both of those porn stars have said many times that they LOVE their jobs and have no regrets whatsoever.

Porn is just a job. It doesn't harm anyone. Do people get abused? Sure, but that can happen at any job if you happen to get a boss who is a jerk. Even regular actors can get abused by directors. If porn was so bad and abuses all women, then these porn stars like Jessie Jane and Rachel Starr wouldn't be saying that they like their jobs. People like Lovelace bash the porn industry because she had the misfortune of being raised by bad parents and married an abusive husband and she's so fast at blaming the porn industry for that. Porn is not responsible for ruining Lovelace's life. Her parents and Chuck were the reasons.

I think the point of the movie is not that porn is evil, but that porn is a lie.

The first half of the movie is the "porn version" of Lovelace's life. It had some dark undertones, but mostly it provided the version of her life and career that the Deep Throat promotional material was putting out - and I'm old enough to remember when the movie came out. Linda Lovelace was presented as a young woman who enjoyed acting in the film because she found it sexually liberating. She turned up at screenings smiling and provocative, apparently enjoying the attention and happily talking about how the movie helped her enjoy sex more and could help other people as well. Linda represented joyful, unrestrained female sexuality, and freedom from outdated morality.

It turns out that was a pleasant illusion, just like pornography itself. The porn star was coerced into making the movie by a husband who controlled her. She had seen her uninhibited husband as an escape from her puritanical upbringing, but instead her marriage led her into a tighter form of control. She was treated as a commodity and a plaything by the filmmakers and Deep Throat's prestigious fans. Ironically, everyone bought the story that she found making Deep Throat fun and freeing. It was only when she started talking about the real experience that she was called a liar.

In porn, women are shown as endlessly obliging, willing and happy to perform any act, however demeaning or dangerous, regardless of how unattractive or brutal the man in question may be. It's a fantasy, but the women acting the part are real. People whose daily work involves showing women as mindless pleasure dolls can't help but have their attitude to actual women influenced by it. It may even influence those who watch porn regularly. The movie makes people uncomfortable and defensive by putting a living face on that information.


Tell me the truth. Are we still in the game?

Everything in moderation. Sex, like everything else, is a gift from God as well.