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Is anyone else as conflicted about the film?


As someone who has watched F1 from the age of six or seven, just as Prost was inheriting Lauda's crown and the ensuing Prost-Piquet-Mansell battles, latterly joined by the emerging and irresistible talent of Senna.

To have brought the story of arguably the best racing driver that has ever lived to the screen so effectively and in a way which invites people with little interest in the sport and absolutely no knowledge of Senna is remarkable. Of course it's easy to say that they couldn't have made it up so were in a good position to begin with, but that by no means guarantees success.

There is, however, something that bugs me, and I don't mean in a smart-alecky I could have done better way. The film goes a wee bit too far than it needed to provide the story with a definitive hero and villains. I'm not damning it with faint praise when I say that the movie excels at presenting history the way Senna saw it at the time it happened. But other documentaries have produced similar results and still been able to bring a certain degree of balance I kept feeling that there was another side to this story. Although there always is more than one side to any story, this time I knew and remembered that there was another point of view. One which could have been heard without diluting the main one. Why is the reconciliation between Ayrton and Alain left out of the film except in an enigmatic credit at the end about Prost being patron of the Senna foundation, which makes it sound like shutting the barn door after the horse has bolted. It is known though that Senna, as he had done throughout his career, quickly forgot about all the acrimony and the accusations and the politics as soon as the need to struggle and overcome an opponent. It has been remarked by almost everyone that worked with Ayrton that this was his way of coping and it was a very successful method. It by no means takes anything away from the man's supreme, raw talent and it would have been an illuminating thing to have revealed in more detail, expecially in relation to Prost. Understandably though, the film-makers decided not to risk undermining the tension that the story, in the manner that it has been presented, creates. For posterity tough, I feel that there was room for making the distinction between fierce rivalry and mortal enmity. Since it was a movie about Senna the man as much as the racing driver, don't both men deserve to have the story of their relationship as men as well as drivers told?



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No, not at all. Before this film I had little to no interest in Formula one but this film was so captivating and powerful that I decided to sit down and watch a race during the 2012 series with minimal knowledge and was immediately hooked.

Ultimately while I could say the commentary and the extended version of the film perhaps gives more credit to Prost then the theatrical cut gives him I don't think it takes away from the film that it wasn't balanced more just to be fair to Prost as there is always room for more documentary's or even more films as there is an endless archive of footage waiting in the F! vaults waiting to be used and explored and watched by the next passionate filmmaker.

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I understand what you mean. I loved Senna the driver and didn't care for Prost. Prost was supremely skilled as a driver just as Senna was, but I didn't care for his tactics or personality during his career. I do think the documentary was a bit heavy handed towards Prost. They clearly made a strong rivalry by casting it as a good vs evil.

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Not conflicted, but I did think it was a bit unfair. I'm fan of both of them (ok, a little more of a Prost fan, to be honest), and I understand both behaved horribly during the rivalry. In words of a friend, 'everyone became a jerk', and to let unmentioned they were able to get pass that and initiate a tentative friendship before Senna's untimely death takes away from the film.

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I also got the same feeling. There seemed to be a bit of demonization going on. Felt more and more unbalanced towards the end.

Still a great film of course.

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It was hagiography at its most emetic.

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I didn't feel the film makes Prost look like evil at all.

To me the film makes you see things the way Senna did, so you can justify his actions (such as the 1990 Suzuka incident).

Senna was a pure driver
Prost was a driver/politician

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Yeah but it doesn't make any real effort to show how Ayrton put things into perspective when the competition was over. It's clear that Senna needed to think the world was against him (and against God) in order to perform at the top of his game, which was exceptional. But the acknowledgement of Prost's patronage ignored the fact that they were reconciled long before Senna died. Too little too late IMO.

It would not have undermined the narrative of his stunning emergence and dominance if they movie had provided the kind of perspective that is present in the supplementary interviews from others that were either cut down or cut completely out of the film

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The movie also conveniently omits the fact that Senna reneged on the Imola agreement, changing his story from "It was the restart so the agreement was void" to "I had already passed into turn one" referring to Tamburello. Even though he'd abided by the agreement which meant that Prost, having beaten Senna into the hairpin and would remain unchallenged by his team-mate for the remainder of the race.

It also failed to depict the fact that the Suzuka result ultimately had no impact on the result of the championship. Senna drove into the back of another car during the rain-soaked final race of the season and out of the race.

It's a pity that the film didn't just present the Suzuka incident as controversial, rather than construct a false narrative of Senna being completely stitched up. Yes the decision to disqualify Senna from the race was harsh. And the reaction to his appeal by threatening suspension was churlish.

None of it excuses what Senna did at the first corner the following year. It attracts a far harsher criticism than "I think he was deeply conflicted about it." Particularly when Senna himself said he had decided to win the championship by any means necessary.

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