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Terrible, cliche ridden and a waste of some good actors

posted 13 years ago by nycalling
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From the scene where a mob enforcer hands his gun over to fistfight, to the line about him being the smartest guy in the bar and how he's read the entire library of congress, the quick disappearance and never mention of his first wife and kids...

I could list all the egregious errors in this film, but then I would have to type for the next hour or so. This was 'Goodfellas' as done with no script, no direction and no idea of how to tell a story. I actually can't believe I had such aspirations for this film.

Lastly, his (Danny Greene's) parents were born in Cleveland. How the heck did he have a brogue in Cleveland? Or was he doing the plastic paddy thing?

Just UGH.

"LSD, golly gee,
DDT, wowee!
Daddy's broke
Holy smoke
My future's bleak
Ain't it neat?"

[–] terrible2 13 years ago

Could not agree more…

I was shocked by the shear ineptness of this movie.

From the cheesy CGI car fires, horrible wigs, embarrassingly clichéd dialog and apparent lack of any screenplay.
The actors were obviously there to collect a paycheck and nothing else. I cannot fault the acting, because they had absolutely nothing to work with script-wise. Just plain terrible in every aspect.
As hard as it tries to remake Goodfellas, it fails even harder.

And yes, Danny Greene was born (as were his parents) in Cleveland. He did not have an Irish accent… The only reason (that I can think of) for giving this character an Irish accent, was to make him more Irish.

Ugh… Ridiculously lame.

[–] kascha-klaussen 8 years ago

Then why in the last part of the movie before the credits when they showed the interview with the real Danny Greene outside his trailer with his back turned did he have such a blatantly obvious Irish accent? As in orders of magnitude more Irish accent than Ray Stevenson had at any time during the movie? I mean I have to wonder if either of you actually watched through to the credits or if you had turned it off already and never saw anything of the real Danny Greene in interviews. You could hear the accent clear as day.

By the way. His actual hairpiece, also known to have existed and quite visible in that same interview excerpt you both clearly missed, was horrible looking. Most toupees are. And they're horribly obvious. To see them on men portraying characters who almost certainly would have needed them and would have looked equally bad in them only reflects the time period. It would wax extremely inauthentic to have shown otherwise. The technology simply didn't exist to make hairpieces look better and even with that technology today they're still laughable.

We talk about cliche dialog and then pretend that there is any other kind in a mob flick. Everyone wants to compare this to Goodfellas which is like the Frank Sinatra himself of mob flicks that one literally can't laugh at as the trope fest it is without half of Jersey Shore and Newark stepping off the end of a dock in Far Rockaway and the rest of the country's closet Nice Guy Eddies falling into the fetal. Sorry, but that was full of cliche. So was Casino. So is The Sopranos. One can literally spin a wheel and have it point to likely dialogue that exists in all three of those sources simultaneously. I mean for better or worse. What would you realistically expect from yet another angle of the saga of the same five crime families with the addition of an Irish guy who was as sick of them as everyone else should be?

OMG. If people are going to go all Star Wars groupie about authenticity and compare everything to the same movie then for crying out loud. Use The Godfather for once.

[–] Prismark10 9 years ago

It certainly was cliched.

Its that man again!!