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Does not make sense

posted 14 years ago by !!!deleted!!! (20142999)
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If the bully really had grown up into a much better person then why was she being antagonistic when blondie confronted her about it. With all the Queen singing and all. If she really was changed then she'd do as you expect a good person to do and be apologetic and say oh I was so dumb as a kid. It just does not ring true that we are meant to see her as an ok person in the end.

This film would have been much better if she had just been an out and out bad girl of the film. It would have made sense. They could have had a proper until now overlooked by him nice girl, perhaps a friend of blondies who he ends up with. The way it is now just seems like they had a change of script right at the end and none of it fits together.

And why the hell could they not give Weaver's character a better looking guy than that. It's not like he needed to be able to act for the part any decent looking guy of age would have done.

[–] ReasonlsOutToLunch 14 years ago

This movie is a big fail. It would have been funnier if they had an out and out feud, but no they had to play it like she was innocent, then she wasn't, then she was, wtf?

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[–] EmpressClaudia 14 years ago

The fact that she pretended not to know her was just insulting. I mean you bully a girl for 4 years and then you pretend not to know her. I mean I agree 100% all that was needed was a simple wow you're done a lot for yourself, I'm sorry I was a *beep* let's be friends for your brother's sake.

[–] ClaireTrevorDecoDame 14 years ago

I agree completely. Ths is the huge thing that bothers me about this film. Just why was she being so antagonistic and then when she gets caught it's "OOOOoooohhhh, I am a good person. It's all Marni's fault." Give me a break. I think the writers messed up on this one. The script could have been so much better and smarter than this.

[–] Beannie75 14 years ago

What didn't make sense to me is when she said her parents would have been proud of her if she'd just apologized the minute Marni came home. But she didn't because she didn't want her fiance or future in-laws to know what she did. Ok. I get that. But A) they were alone a couple of times and she KNEW Marni was shocked and hurt that she didn't remember. She could have apologized at any time. B) If she were truly sorry, she wouldn't have put We Are the Champions on, or any of the stuff she did. She would have pulled Marni aside and sincerely apologized.

The thing that truly concerned me: They all knew Marni was tormented in high school and presumably knew who did most of it. How did NO ONE put together that Joanna/JJ is the same JJ from Ridgefield High? Seriously no one considered it? Especially Will who seemed like such a sweet brother, he never realized in talking to Joanna that she was the same girl that tortured his little sister?

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[–] sinceimetjc 14 years ago

I agree completely. This is the one thing that really bothered me about the movie. I was giving the writers the benefit of the doubt during the We are the Champions scene, by thinking that maybe we were just seeing things through Marnie's perspective, and she was too caught up on what happened in high school. But there was no doubt about it when they were talking and Joanna gave a half hearted apology and insulted Marnie.

Later she said that she just wanted to start over again, and maybe it was bothering her that Marnie wouldn't just drop it, but she really did owe Marnie an apology and I don't see why that would have been so hard. You just say, "Hey Marnie, I know I was so mean to you in HS, but can we put that all behind us? Can you forgive and forget it happened?" But she did no such thing.

I don't get it.

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[–] odalo92 14 years ago

yeah.
I liked the film but was a bit dissapointed ay some scenes. I mean if some scenes were changed it would have been great.
like the weddingdresscake scene.where joanna claims to have changed. I mean even after marni showed the video she was still å b.. so her doing an 180 was totally unrealistic. yes they could have made her change but they would have to do it in a much better way. thers probably loads of ways you can do that..
I would have liked jj to stay mean and will to meet someone new.
and why was will mad at marni I mean he should see it from her side, the girl who tormented her in high school is marrying her brother, pretending she never met her before, she comes home and her dog and everybody loves jj and natrually she feels left out. will, the video is evidence your girlfriend was a b... in high school why are you so mad at marn for telling you the TRUTH?

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[–] Definition00 14 years ago

The whole thing was retarded. After the tape had been shown and everything was crumbling around her, Joanna and her little sob stories of how she is different now, and how could Marni bring up all that old stuff when she's changed so much and wanted to be someone her parents liked. Um? So why was she antagonising Marni the whole movie? It's like the writers really forgot what they had written 20 pages back, it was a muddled mess. Heap onto that the fact that Odette Yustman cannot act for shizen and her 'sincere' and 'contrite' scenes still looked phony and bating.

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[–] cool_dudez11 14 years ago

I agree. This bothered me as well. Also, why did Joanna get Marni the necklace with "Moo" on it? That obviously showed intent.

I think the 360-degree spin of Joanna's personality was either a fake, or Joanna is bipolar.

I hope someone else has a better theory than me.

[–] bing-57 14 years ago

> If the bully really had grown up into a much better person then why was she being antagonistic when blondie confronted her about it.

The movie was very muddled in that respect. Was she reformed or just faking it? That was never very clear. Did she love the brother or was this some big plot to torment Marni? Was Marni really a good enough person to even bother with? Hard to tell.

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[–] Franco_Zed 14 years ago

I thought this was one of the better written threads I've read lately.

I'm totally with you guys. There's good stuff in this movie, but it's not consistent enough to make psychological sense. It could have worked better if they'd picked one direction for the story and then make everything work toward that direction. So...

1) They could have ended with a believable reformation from Joanna, if they'd made her earlier behaviour consistent with that.
2) They could have ended with Joanna and Will not getting back together.
3) They could have addressed the inconsistency directly. It might have been interesting if Joanna had an explanation for some of her recent behaviour. Something like: "As soon as I saw you, I started falling into old patterns, and I hated it."

I like Odette a lot, but this was a tricky role, and I agree that she was not strong enough to pull it off.
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[–] Kelea7 14 years ago

These were my thought as well. This thread pretty much covers all of my concerns. I'm thinking they had to change the ending/script or something because it just doesn't add up.

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[–] arcadecrawler 14 years ago

I think she did change, aren't we all just a little bit bitchy at some time or another? Nobody is perfect. haven't we all made mistakes? She didn't want everyone to find out her secret(which is wrong but we all do things that are wrong) so she tried to bully Kirsten (which was a very bad tactic), by regressing to her old behavior.

She sincerely apologized so that counts for something in my book, people do change but they can regress as well.

I liked the happy ending it was a nice light hearted feel good movie. 9/10

[–] sixerschik36 14 years ago

People do make mistakes and would rather have their bad past left in the past but they way she went about it didnt make it seem like she changed. If she really changed, and didnt want anyone to know, she couldve just pilled marni aside and told her sorry for how crappy she treated her and that she hopes they can both put it behind them and move on.

[–] beautyshopping 14 years ago

See, this is what I feared would happen. Some people would walk away thinking the treatment of Marnie was no big deal ("nobody is perfect") and belittle it all just like JJ. So we are left not only with a movie showcasing a bully as the romantic lead (not the primary lead but definitely the romantic one) but also a movie that seems to comfort anyone else who is a bit like JJ. And they all walk away thinking 'It's no big deal,' even to continue such behavior as an adult.

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[–] staticsaber 13 years ago

Pretending not to know her when she really did.
Keeping it all from the family, and dominating Marni's home and family.
The one on one conversation and the necklace, proving she was still a bitch.
Oh, trying to guilt trip Marni, "YOU JUST CAN'T LET GO OF THE PAST!"
... and throwing dinner plates at her for walking away from her.

... Wow. I hate this person, and after all this crap... she gets her happy little ending. Remember boys and girls, if you're a horrible monster at one point in your life... DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT! Karma will forgive you...

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