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Slightly disappointed

posted 9 years ago by bluefox01
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I like both Pitch Black and The Chronicles. They are different, but both very much original. But this new movie partly disappointed me, because it is just more fighting. It feels almost like a B-movie, nothing really new, except maybe from the arts department. I was hoping for a new story to shed some light into the underverse or some other storylines from the previous movies.

Karl Urban is credited on second place, but he isn't even in the movie, just as a recap. WTF??

And Katee Sackhoff didn't do herself a favor with this role in my opinion, playing a dumb merc, after her role in Battlestar Galactica.

What kept me going to watch this movie were three things:
- Vin Diesel's acting, it carried the movie through
- the beautiful arts and CGI, just like in first two movies
- and my enthusiasm for the first two movies

I hope we will see more from this universe, but with a little bit more background next time...

Bluefox01

[–] speculator-1 9 years ago

Yep, it's certainly not what I expected.

I thought it would be an action-packed revenge story, Riddick vs Vakko.

Instead we get Pitch Black 2. I mean, how can the same sh!t happen to the same guy twice?

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[–] sillyspaghetti 9 years ago

I don't think it's quite as good as Pitch Black and The Chronicles of Riddick. But I do still really like this film. Having both Vin and Batista in it is a bonus!

[–] ttaskmaster 9 years ago

What kept me going to watch this movie were three things:

And none of them were Katee Sackhoff's tits???!!!
's wrong wit' you??

I understand Diesel had to stump up his own cash to get this one made, after studios refused to fund anything based on the dysmal reception of Chronicles. That might have something to do with a number of 'creative decisions', as well as a return to the same format of Pitch Black as a very blatant shout to the fans - "Hey, we're sorry. Look, we've gone back to the kind of film you were expecting", sort of thing.

[–] bluefox01 9 years ago

"Look, we've gone back to the kind of film you were expecting."

Except, that I started watching with the Chronicles and I think, it's great.

I think, the problem wasn't so much the critics, it was the money: Pitch Black had cost 23 million and made 39. The Chronicles actually made more, about 60 million, but had cost 105. This seems to me more like a miscalculation about the market for the movie than a creative failure.

[–] ttaskmaster 9 years ago

Except, that I started watching with the Chronicles and I think, it's great.

For you, that's wonderful... even I enjoyed several aspects of Chronicles.
However, Pitch Black came first and set the scene for who Riddick is and what teh films should be like. Then Chronicles came along and decided he was some magical guy with Midichlorians and pissed all over the first film.
That is what fans and critics hated.

I think, the problem wasn't so much the critics, it was the money:

Same thing.
The fans are the critics and they voted with their wallets.
Films are made with money, in order to make money, at least as far as teh studio that pays for it is concerned. If they don't make at least double the production costs, they are considered financial failures... and if they aren't creative successes, people tend not to go see then, which means they don't make money.

Would you go and see a film that early viewers are all saying is complete *beep*

[–] bluefox01 9 years ago

some magical guy with Midichlorians

Nah, the big surprise for the Necromongers was rather that he had no special abilities but he won the fight against their Lord Marshal nevertheless.

Would you go and see a film that early viewers are all saying is complete *beep*

Maybe. Don't trust the reviews on IMDB... For the new Star Wars movie they were almost all harshly negative in December, but I went and it was ok. I guess, the disappointed people are just the loudest, even if they are the minority.

[–] ttaskmaster 9 years ago

Nah, the big surprise for the Necromongers was rather that he had no special abilities but he won the fight against their Lord Marshal nevertheless.

No special abilities...?
Just the last known Alpha member of an Elder race that has evolved unique qualities and characteristics, such as a hardy resilience to harsh environments and pain, great strength, speed, agility, stamina and recovery, heightened and acute senses, all of which make him pretty much superhuman... oh, and the "Wrath Of The Furyans", a burst of magical Emo-energy that does about 9d12 damage to everything around him... no, *nothing* special going on there!!

Maybe. Don't trust the reviews on IMDB...

I don't even read them. I talk to friends who have seen it.

[–] bluefox01 9 years ago

Lol, you refer to video games that weren't even invented yet 😀. But you have a point there. His abilities in Pitch Black were still superior, but less remote from the other humans as in the Chronicles.

[–] ttaskmaster 9 years ago

Lol, you refer to video games that weren't even invented yet.

The 9d12 damage bit is a D&D reference (which Vin Diesel plays, so twice as cunning), but the rest is either shown on screen or explained by the other Furyan bloke. IIRC, they even have the fancy eyes and the glowing hand print that shows they have the Wrath power?

His abilities in Pitch Black were still superior, but less remote from the other humans as in the Chronicles.

Most of that was stealth-based, physical conditioning and general ability. Many humans are capable of getting as good as that.