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They ruined the neuralyzer gag....


I thought it was pretty clever that when they were going to erase J's memory when he first got back to 1969 that the he had to be placed inside a huge neuralyzer the size of a whole room. As we know, everything gets smaller as technology advances: the first computer filled up a room, early microwaves were the size of a refrigerator, early cell phones were the size of a large brick, etc. It only made sense that the early generation neuralyzers were massive.

But then near the end when they are at Cape Canaveral, it turns out that 1969 K does have a hand-held mini neuralyzer after all- it just has to be hooked up to a battery pack. Ummmmm, so why didn't he just use that on J in the first place? Why do they even still have a massive, room-size neuralyzer that requires the target to be placed inside and takes a minute to warm up when they can just use the pocket size version instantly?

They ruined a pretty clever bit by pulling out the mini version in the end. They should have just used J's modern neuralyzer if when they needed a portable one at the end. They could have had K marvel at the small size of it (like the way J marveled at the huge size of K's '69 portable phone in that one scene).

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I thought this was going to be about the bit in the first movie where J says, "hey, have you ever flashy thingied me before?!". It was humorous then, but now knowing what we know from the third movie, we're just reminded of that tragic scene with K and J's dead father.

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Interesting point. But it's been many, many years since I've seen the first one, and I wasn't thinking that deeply!

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The battery pack neuralyzer can only be used one time and that is after a 3 day charge.

Boy takes poop & raps!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtadIlvB7jU

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"The battery pack neuralyzer can only be used one time and that is after a 3 day charge. "

Thant helps a little bit. I missed that tidbit. But still, there has to be something between whole room size and hand-held-3-day-charge size.

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Nice catch about the flashy thingie question from the first MIB. So J had done it before, when J was a boy.

Semper Contendere Propter Amoram et Formam

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Agreed, since they didn't even use it, it seemed like a waste to even show K's portable version after seeing the room sized Neuralyzer.

Thank the Gods for NETFLIX!!

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This whole debate is between real logic, versus movie logic. The room sized neuralyzer was set up to push the plot as well as to get a few laughs. The portable neuralyzer at Cape Canaveral was used for nothing more than a gag to get a laugh. There is no real logic, just movie logic.

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Did no one pay attention to the movie?

The big neuralyzer wiped EVERYTHING. It was going to completely wipe J's memory. The small one had a limited span of effectiveness.

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The room sized neuralizer doubled as a mental torture/interogation device... J was so scared that he told the truth.

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early microwaves were the size of a refrigerator

How old are you? They were never larger than the large counter-top models of today. And yes, I'm talking about microwave ovens for home use, and not industrial units or the very first ones that were never available for home use.

Example of senility.http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/2779/paintx.png

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So I said "early" you made up your own definition of the word, which you decided couldnt include

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...the "very first ones." Don't you think the very first ones would count as "early"?

A quick Internet search yields:

"In 1947, Raytheon built the "Radarange", the first commercially available microwave oven.[6] It was almost 1.8 metres (5 ft 11 in) tall, weighed 340 kilograms (750 lb) and cost about US$5,000 ($52,042 in today's dollars) each."

5 ft 11 in. Almost the size of a refrigerator, wouldn't you say?

Go be a pompous jerk somewhere else. How old are you?

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You're pretty clever or incredibly stupid to respond to "your" post so I would not be notified.

From my earlier post: "And yes, I'm talking about microwave ovens for home use, and not industrial units or the very first ones that were never available for home use."

So you reply with: "Raytheon built the "Radarange", the first commercially available microwave oven."


Let's highlight "first commercially available. Do you know what that means? That's right. "...industrial units or the very first ones that were never available for home use."

Boy, I sure I hope I cleared that one up for you.(sigh)



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You bring up a good point, but K had to have a smaller neuralyzer at the end of the movie when confronted by J as a boy. (the "hero" sceen) he did not know (at least I took it this way) that (older) J was still watching him as he talked to him.

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I thought maybe they examined the neuralyzer J brought with him from the future?

How many of you believe in telekinesis? Raise my hands.

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I thought the dialup modem sounds it was making meant it had to get a neuralizer data feed from the big one to work.

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