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Biggest plot hole

posted 10 years ago by DaytonaBob
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I do not know if this has been brought up before.

BUT why do they have to go to Cape Canaveral to put the ArcNet into space.

Isn't THAT WHAT THEY DO ANYWAY? They monitor ALL arriving aliens?

HOW do they get to Earth? Taxi?

Nope SPACESHIPS.

So why not hop back to HQ, get one of the newly arrived alien ships and be up there within the hour. No Boris and no dead father.

Yeah I know..it's a movie but that seems glaringly obvious.

IN MIB4 Time to go into outer space to visit the other planets in the galaxy.

They who give up liberty to
obtain a temporary safety deserve
neither liberty or safety

[–] granitodiaz 10 years ago

They need to wait for the space shuttle launch to deploy the arc net. Aren't they surrounded by aliens that have mastered space travel?

The stupid have one thing in common.They alter the facts to fit their views not the other way

[–] virgiltx 10 years ago

Having aliens on earth does not mean we have flyable spacecraft of theirs. Maybe they are mostly aliens that are discovered living on Earth, disguised as humans.

Maybe many or most of them simply beam-transported here, like the Thermians in Galaxy Quest.

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[–] Soodinum 9 years ago

Please learn the meaning of plot hole.

[–] DaytonaBob 9 years ago

Really and what would that difference mean?

It was a huge plot hole.

They who give up liberty to
obtain a temporary safety deserve
neither liberty or safety

[–] Soodinum 9 years ago

I told you to learn the meaning of the phrase. You clearly haven't done that yet.

'Then' and 'than' are different words - stop confusing them.

[–] DaytonaBob 9 years ago

I have and this is indeed a plot hole. What is your problem?

They who give up liberty to
obtain a temporary safety deserve
neither liberty or safety

[–] Soodinum 9 years ago

It's not.

'Then' and 'than' are different words - stop confusing them.

[–] realStJammy 9 years ago

Not really a plot hole. A plot hole is a logical inconsistency within a story. Such as a statement or events that contradict earlier events in the storyline. For example Agent J has a fight with the big fish outside the Chinese restaurant, rips out its heart and kills it. The following scene before J mind wipes the crowd you see another agent driving a trailer with the fish flapping around clearly alive.

What your asking is just down to sloppy writing. No facts are given so a conclusion can't be given. As a previous poster said, have all the other ships left? Has something happened that means the Apollo shuttle is the only ship that works? Does it have to be the Apollo shuttle because that was what is used in the original timeline and to use something else would screw up the timeline again.

Without the writers putting any facts in the film it's all just speculation. So not plot hole, sloppy writing.

[–] Handsome_Napplebee 9 years ago

What you are describing is continuity, not Plot hole. The op is right and it is definitely a hole in the plot. Case closed.

[–] chilone 8 years ago

Ca'mon Bob! Man up and admit you're wrong!! :)

I don't love her.. She kicked me in the face!!

[–] Balibari 9 years ago

A plot hole is a fault in the logic of a narrative. It isn't logical to go to Cape Canaveral if there are other ways of getting a small device into space. J and K work out of a building that's buzzing with aliens coming and going between earth and space. Plot hole.

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[–] Soodinum 9 years ago

You're still wrong. Learn what a plot hole (proper) is.

[–] srcs 9 years ago

Well, according to http://meninblack.wikia.com/wiki/Men_in_Black_Wiki

"The Men in Black was founded in the U.S. in the mid-1950s ... make contact with a group of alien refugees on March 2, 1961, outside New York City. "

Since J went back to the 60's and MIB was still new-ish, I would imagine there weren't a lot of ships available at that time and they didn't have all of the rules, regs, fail-safes, or equipment we take for granted in the first movie.

There may not have been any ships available to borrow for this job. Some could have crashed, some had just enough fuel for a one way trip and none of our fuel would work, some could have snuck in and MIB not even know about those ships (I could go on, but you get the general idea :) )

Perhaps it had to be launched at that time and at that place for maximum effect to be in place to prevent the invasion. When NASA launches it is well planned. They don't just say "Ok, let's launch Tuesday from Alaska." There are optimum launch windows they use.

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[–] philoj 9 years ago

It's certainly unanswered in the movie, but it doesn't seem like a big stretch. Two possibilities occur to me:

1) A few times in the three movies there have been statements about rules set up by the MIB. In this movie in particular they indicate that MIB "outlawed" time travel throughout the galaxy. Given the suggestion that there's a fairly rigid rules framework, it's not hard to imagine that one such rule would be "no race is to give any other race access to advanced space travel technology" - in other words, you don't get off your own rock until you can do it yourselves. And since MIB are the police, they follow their own rules.

2) Why would any other race give MIB the means to put up a defensive screen, and why would MIB trust them to do it?

Having said all that, I don't see any reason why it had to be a moon shot. Looks like any rocket that got to the right altitude would do the job, and there were plenty of those available.

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