This movie had a great cast, who gave great performances. It was more thoughtful than your average blockbuster. The characters made it enjoyable. Benedict as Khan was incredible, he actually looked and sounded both intelligent and powerful.
Not as smart as you would expect from a Star Trek film, but pretty much a well made popcorn flick.
From amitp5335:
This movie had a great cast, who gave great performances. It was more thoughtful than your average blockbuster. The characters made it enjoyable. Benedict as Khan was incredible, he actually looked and sounded both intelligent and powerful.
Not as smart as you would expect from a Star Trek film, but pretty much a well made popcorn flick.
I want(ed) to like it, as well... There's, just, much too much *beep* in it. It's a pattern, like an enchanted circle from which filmmakers don't have the power to break out.
When you get into the green /blue screen, macro photography, digital effects (pretty seamlessly) combined with practical, a lot of actors and a (fairly) complex script - what you get out of it is such a huge (and amazing) achievement, perhaps it's hard to piece it all together?.. Too many things to successfully incorporate, the big screen, the social element, getting back the enormous amounts of money that had been invested... Somewhere along the line, it all starts going to *beep* and there's no way out of it??
For many years, now, I've been trying to understand the necessity of this "trend" to make a *beep* up film, as the final product, when you've had ALL these crazy resources at you disposal. Really, it should be something out of this world and instead we're treated to something that's full of plot holes, something that ends up being incredibly stupid to watch and so on... IDK. :-f
Edit: Individually, the sets, costumes, effects, parts of the story, unbelievable ideas that come to life - all of that (and much more!) is untouchable and yet, there are (many?) pictures of days past which seem to be light years ahead of STID, meh.
It's a horrid movie.
"Time is the fire in which we burn."
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Being so unlike the shows/original crew movies made me dislike it more, but the movie had plenty of problems aside from that, namely the whole narrative falling apart in the second half of the film.
I don't like the idea of a super dark Star Trek film in the abstract, since that's not what the franchise is supposed to be about, but if someone made a dark Star Trek film on the level of, say, The Dark Knight, The Bourne Ultimatum, or other grim blockbusters in that vein, it would be hard to complain. The trouble is, in addition to not being true to the franchise, this movie simply isn't good, which makes it easy to double down on the criticism.
I hate this film because it's bad and it insulted my intelligence.
shareLMMFAO I can't stop laughing at the people who say it "insults their intelligence." Just because you think you're intelligent doesn't mean that you are. Funny how movies bring out the complainers in hordes.
shareFinally! Someone on imdb who "gets it"...
While I also find the complainers on imdb hysterical, it also makes me a little sad. Whatever happened to enjoying movies and cinema at face value?
Even more, whatever happened to the phrase "we agree to disagree"?
cheers!
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Finally! Someone on imdb who "gets it"...
While I also find the complainers on imdb hysterical, it also makes me a little sad.
Whatever happened to enjoying movies and cinema at face value?
Even more, whatever happened to the phrase "we agree to disagree"?
Gee, thanks so much for the response, but follow the thread:
I wasn't replying to you. Which means I wasn't talking to you. See how that works?
cheers...
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"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."
Gee, thanks so much for the response, but follow the thread:
I wasn't replying to you. Which means I wasn't talking to you. See how that works?
Fair play. Awesome information.
Equally awesome here on the imdb public boards is the IGNORE function.
Which I have just employed.
cheers...
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"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."
Fair play. Awesome information.
Equally awesome here on the imdb public boards is the IGNORE function.
Which I have just employed.
If Star Trek Into Darkness is good enough for Benedict Cumberbatch, it's good enough for me.
Laugh while you can, Monkey Boy!
Nah it was just a *beep* movie that was badly written and tried to pass Khan off as a white boy and that lame WOK ending. Abrams destroys everything he touches because he can't be original to save his life. TFA proved that in spades. Trekkies hated this so much is probably why Beyond bombed. They just gave up.
shareOk, let's assume, for the sake of argument, that "Space Seed" and TWOK were never made, and that STID is completely original in its own right.
Spock is completely out of character. He would have argued against "fixing" the volcano right from the get-go. He would have eventually deferred to Kirk, because he values authority and chain of command, but he would not have risked his life to fix the volcano when things got dicey. Also, he would not have cried at Kirk's death. He didn't cry over Amanda (the most important person in his life), so he definitely would not have cried over Kirk. And he absolutely would not have yelled out in rage at that moment either.
Uhura is the ship's communications officer. The only reason she would have been sent to stop Spock from killing Khan would be because it MIGHT be, that at that specific moment in time, Spock is so full of rage and grief that she MAY have been the only person he might listen to. But that's dicey, and they don't know that for sure. It would have made more sense if they sent down a security detail, since they have to bring back Khan alive and under arrest. Uhura could then accompany them, but no way would Sulu or Bones or whoever was in charge at the time send her down just by herself.
Dei ex machinas are bad writing. They're plot devices used when the writer is too lazy or uncreative to think of a logical way to finish a story plausibly. If your plot resolution depends on suddenly discovering that someone's super strong blood can magically bring a dead person back to life -- when there has been no evidence of this resurrecting property in anything else prior to this -- you're being sloppy.
I'll give you the great cast, though.