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Taking Bonnie's magic. Again.


I just read IMDB's 6 things to know about the final season. Their Bonnie part really pisses me off.

Without Magic.

I can hardly think of anything I want to see less than Bonnie once again without magic. Is there some huge camp of people that want to see Bonnie without magic? Why would they write crap like that for a final shortened season.

Without friends.

Bonnie has been separated more than any other character. Half the time she's in some situation that keeps her alone or with few interacting with her.

What would be refreshing would be to see Bonnie actually being a badass witch for the final season. No whining, no endless self doubt and no crying over the moral grey areas that being a witch puts her in.




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I don't think there is anyone who wants to see Bonnie without magic. In fact, most of us have been clamoring for her to be MORE powerful since, you know, she is an ancestor of the most powerful witch ever, QUetsiyah. I think the only person that wants this is Julie Plec.

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I think Bonnie will start out with no magic but will eventually get it back and she will be more powerful than ever before.
I believe she will play the biggest role in the conclusion of the series, after all, witch magic is responsible for all the things that go bump in the night. Professor Shane's words. It makes sense that if witch magic started it all ( supernatural beings and occurrences) than witch magic will end it all. I just hope Bonnie finally finds the peace that Grams promised.

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She's taken that journey before. Lost her powers then gets them back stronger. It's reused plot and it pisses me off.



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This!

These writers lack talent, that's why we're given the same thing season after season...

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The problem with this show in general is Julie Plec is a massive fangirl of her own bs. She is literally crapping where she eats and doesn't realize she killed her own show.

Since SHE LOVES what she's writing she continues to write it over and over and over again regardless of the fact that the vast majority of viewers have made it clear this is not what we want to see.

She's the reason this show is dead and she's the reason The Originals circling the bowl. She can't stop reusing garbage storylines and forcing her lame pairings that happen inorganically. Fangirls are not good writers. Look at any fanfic on the internet. It's all garbage made fun of by everyone else even other fangirls.

Julie Plec writes fanfic.

We'll never seen Bonnie stand out because she feels threatened by black women. Look at every black woman who's ever been on this show. How did they appear and how did they end? Weak and dead.

Who tethered Bonnie's life to Elena's? Why Bonnie? Any other character including her brother could've been used.

Julie Plec lost her ish on this character years ago when people dared to suggest that it appeared Damon was intrigued by Bonnie rather than Elena. To make matters worse she then creates a knock-off version of Damon, beats us over the head with his exclusive interest in black women, and then retcons his ancestry so he would be half black(to drive home that she's not going to create any interracial pairings). Not because she's against interracial pairings in general but because she doesn't want to see a character of color on this show matter. Subservience and leftover pairings at best.

The only reason she paired Bonnie with Jeremy is because he was the little brother literally no one was interested in. When he became hot and desirable(was clearly working out hard) she broke them up. Bonnie is the only female of the core group who hasn't been intimate with anyone else in the core group. Caroline has been with all the guys and no one cared. If you mention Bonnie with anyone people lose their minds.

And that PIG was given a diversity award. I can't.

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I'm not sure about Julie Plec's racial intentions but I certainly agree that Bonnie has taken more crap than anyone else. That every time it looks like they might do something good with the character they screw it up or take away her magic and push her away from the other characters. Again.




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Wait, Enzo is half black?

I really dislike Plec and I think Dries is bad at her job (though less annoying than Plec who says the dumbest *beep* ever on twitter).

Plec suffers from misplaced hubris. I have watched many interviews with her, and I really think she thinks she is like Shonda Rhimes. I have my issues with Rhimes sometimes, but you cannot deny that she writes shows people want to watch. Plec is a soap opera writer who fancies herself a true writing talent.

Soap operas in general are less concerned with storyline consistency, deus ex machinas are readily employed and characterization doesn't necessarily have to be consistent. This is exactly what Plec and Dries have brought to TVD. And it really sucks, because TVD did not start as a soap and that is not what it was meant to be. You can have romance, and shipping and still be able to tell a coherent story which is true to the characters. And because she thinks she is so great, she is not able to be self critical enough to really poke holes in her own storylines and so we get rushed, inconsistent, retconned stories.

Everytime I watch an interview with her, I am struck by how confident in her abilities she seems and how delusional she is about her lack of talent. She destroyed TVD and Containment was garbage as well (started out strong but went to hell). I *beep* LOVE confident women and I bring up Shonda because I feel she has earned the right to be confident, even cocky, but Plec has not. TVD is not a success because of her, but in spite of her. And she cannot see that because she is so full of herself. In practice, she is writing *beep* fanfic, but in her head, she truly thinks she is an amazing writer.

In this vein, she also can't see how biased/racist her stories and characters come across because of her hubris. She is a very liberal woman, she could not possibly be biased!


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I always suspected that Michael Malarkey had mixed racial ancestry and from Googling and Wikipedia, his mom is Italian-Arab. So that explains why Plec felt he was appropriate for Bonnie.

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Guys they do this for plot purposes... if Bonnie had her magic EVERYTHING WOULD BE MUCH EASIER AND THE SEASON WOULD MOVE ALONG FASTER (maybe too fast ugh). Unless the being they're fighting is immune to magic or has a strong witch of their own, Bonnie's magic is a "way-too-easy" solution - and the writers would never give us that.

I love Bonnie's character, especially when they develop her character more, such as in season 6. Her friendship with Damon has my heart since season 4 and she's a pretty badass character. I wish they gave her magic because it lets her be all of who she really is... BUT hopefully this gives us a chance to see more of her interactions with other characters solely based on their friendships and common purpose to save Damon/Enzo and not just be the "default witch" -.-

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Ugh, are you kidding me? No more powers, again?

I can't help but wonder if they're doing this on purpose to upset those interested in her storyline and make anything Bonnie-centered (or even Benzo-centered) receive even fewer views. Then JP can push the usual Hollywood-pushed spiel of "well, we'd have done better by Bonnie if people were actually interested in her story, but the views prove we were right to push her character to the back of the cast and stories, and were better off focusing on the recycled plot lines, soap opera melodrama and boring main characters that led the show downhill in the first place."

What would be refreshing would be to see Bonnie actually being a badass witch for the final season. No whining, no endless self doubt and no crying over the moral grey areas that being a witch puts her in.
If only. That'd be a fantastic breath of fresh air.

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The problem here is lazy writing. I remember in the beginning of season 2 when Caroline was in hospital Elena asked Bonnie if she could do anything to help her and then Damon interjected that she doesn't know how because it "took Emily years to master a spell like that."

I also remember early on there were consequences and balances needed to be made to perform certain spells. Remember when to desiccate Klaus, Bonnie had to stop a human heart? Or her chronic nosebleeds and weakened demeanor when she used too much magic? Or when channeling the power of 100 witches would kill her?

So, in the early days Bonnie's magic had limitations. But that seems to have been forgotten about and now magic can solve anything, so Julie and Co. wrote themselves into a corner - again - and thought the only way out - again - was to strip Bonnie of her powers - again.

Bonnie's series-long arc should have been about developing her powers organically, that way it would have been more believable and more interesting when Bonnie's magic couldn't help. But of course the writers created problems/villains that seemed so unbeatable that the only way to defeat them was with magic.

Not to mention the inconsistencies with witch mythology. When a witch died, their spells were broken back in the old days. Apparently not anymore, since Bonnie has died several times, and also Kai is dead, yet his sleeping-beauty spell on Elena and Bonnie is still legit apparently. Then we get this half-witch/syphon/heretic B.S.

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I really hated the whole heretic thing. It went against their own mythology.



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